No, the people did not change. 9/11 allowed the government to grow and a systemic loss of liberty.And you don't think 9/11 changed the US?
America has a very short memory and we are back making the same mistakes again. Remember this administration said in a press briefing when asked about Benghazi , "Oh that was so long ago!" It had only been 3 weeks. As the old Muslim says, "They may have the watches, but we have the time." Muslims think in generations not in years. If this administration doesn't cause revolution, the Muslims will keep us busy.No, the people did not change. 9/11 allowed the government to grow and a systemic loss of liberty.
Its perhaps a mater of definition, but a SHTF event is one that resets all or a portion of civilization, with a likely significant loss of life (100K+).
Well said.A few weeks ago I saw a scientist on Fox News proclaiming that another Carrington event will happen in the next twenty years. Right or wrong, (hopefully wrong), we prepare for disasters "just in case". I would hope no one would want a devastating event that impacts our entire country. That's not the world I want for my children, grandchildren, etc. As for former boyscout and soldier, I've always been taught to be prepared. Look at Colorado. Many people could be stranded for weeks without supplies. I fear mother nature more than I do mankind. The powers that be are not going to let this country fall into a tailspin, regardless of what people think. The most likely reason for a devastating event is going to be natural. Could be an earthquake, volcano, Carrington event, pandemic, whatever. I do what I can so I can take care of my family in a time of need.
Lol, not much going on here in Iowa. I suppose if Yellowstone blows, it could impact us. We have a fault line that runs close to the Mississippi river. It's said to have had such a devastating quake in the 1800's that it changed the course of the river. We have nuclear power plants along the river close to us too. That could cause problems. I guess what I'm saying is, I think a more realistic situation that impacts the country is going to be caused by nature, rather than man. I don't believe the people in power are going to let the country collapse. There are too many safeguards in place. I may not care for the politics right now, or that they are stripping away our freedoms. But, an actual EOTWAWKI event to me is most likely going to be caused for nature. In regards to people though, about the only real fear I have are more terrorist attacks on soft targets that could cripple our economy if people are afraid to go anywhere. Thankfully this hasn't happened, but it could. The one I would be most concerned about would be either a Carrington event or an EMP that destroys our electrical grid. Someone was in front of Congress a few months ago saying that if this occurred, about 90% of the population would be dead in six months. I'll have to see if I can dig the article up. I don't know how accurate that percentage is either. But, people are so dependent on electricity today and I don't think many could survive without it. Sad but true.Well said.
I couldn't agree with you more on "The powers that be are not going to let this country fall into a tailspin," There's simply NO profit in that.
I'm a little shocked to hear anyone say "I fear mother nature more than I do mankind" though. Aside from snow... What happens in Iowa? That's threatening i mean. :wink: You guys don't make national news to often.
You've got me thinking... My concerns are maybe 15/85 - mother nature / mankind. Hurricanes are a REAL possibility here. But all across the world drug use and the crime & violence associated to it is reaching EPIC proportions. And though our government isn't likely to "allow" any kind of collapse. I DO see where their mishandling international affairs, and attempting to enslave citizens is going to reach a point it could result in a collapse against their will.
No I do not. I do not want one either.Do you think a large, country/world changing SHTF event will happen in your lifetime?
(SHTF event is one that resets all or a portion of civilization, with a likely significant loss of life (100K+))
The hardest part of the zombie apocalypse will be hiding my excitement! :mrgreen:So I will be the first one to admit totally ready for the Zombie apocalypses, had to share that ;-)