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If people refuse to wear face mask, refuse to social distance, and refuse to self quarantine when diagnosed positive. How are we ever to get back to normal?

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Not to be a smart-ass but I would suggest those who are fearful and at high risk...stay inside.
The rest of us have bills to pay, food to buy, etc, etc.
I can't work on a customers house through ZOOM.
 

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Other than a handful of news stories about people who tested positive and refused to quarantine this isnt an issue. So you really have nothing to worry about.

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"Normal" is humans suffering through the valley between one bright happy moment and the next.
"Normal" has NEVER been bubble wrap and safe spaces.

We get "back to normal" by getting back to our lives and accepting that none of us are long for this world.
 

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I'm 71 years old, in relatively good health (I tell myself). I am a little concerned about this virus
because of my age. If I was under 50, I'd be out there protesting the shut down, too. IMHO, the
more I see on the news network I have faiht in, this looks like a hype job by the fake news
propaganda arm of the democrats. Especially, now that it comes out Pelosi visited the Chinese
government in November 2019.
 

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If people refuse to wear face mask, refuse to social distance, and refuse to self quarantine when diagnosed positive. How are we ever to get back to normal?

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I may be the odd man out on this one since I've really only been truly sick a few times in my life, but I've had a number of Orthopedic Procedures/Surgeries so I'll add those to my level of experience...

When I am sick or recovering from some doc slicing through skin and bone to remove or replace something in my body I generally stay THE EFF AT HOME!

I don't want your dirty ass coming over to visit and touching me with your grimy damn hands. Stay away from me.

When I'm well, which is like 99.8% of my life, I will be doing the "Pursuit of Happiness" thing. I don't need or want some government hypocrite to order me to wear a damn mask, stay away from others when I am out and about. I wear a mask when I'm bushhawging or when I'm cleaning the chimney. When I'm out, I will not touch you so don't touch me.

Easy Peasy.
 

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If people refuse to wear face mask, refuse to social distance, and refuse to self quarantine when diagnosed positive. How are we ever to get back to normal?
My county has only 67 reported cases and 3 deaths, yet even then, most people I see out are keeping their distance with maybe half wearing a mask.

None of the things you mention will get us back to normal... actually the opposite. Only way we get back to normal is for enough of the population to get immunity... either from getting the virus or a future vaccine. The things you mention don't get us to normal, they prolong the event (flatten the curve). The intent is to drag the event out so that health resources aren't over burdened. So if you wish things to get back to normal the quickest, then do none of the things you mention. If you are in no hurry, do all you mention and wait on a vaccine next year.
 

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You have fallen for the scam. Do some more home work. None of that has much if at all about the virus and your health. The virus is being used as a means of social control. Break the country down and force full government control over every part of your life.
It will be their way of making us beg for socialism. No thanks.
 

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My county has only 67 reported cases and 3 deaths, yet even then, most people I see out are keeping their distance with maybe half wearing a mask.

None of the things you mention will get us back to normal... actually the opposite. Only way we get back to normal is for enough of the population to get immunity... either from getting the virus or a future vaccine. The things you mention don't get us to normal, they prolong the event (flatten the curve). The intent is to drag the event out so that health resources aren't over burdened. So if you wish things to get back to normal the quickest, then do none of the things you mention. If you are in no hurry, do all you mention and wait on a vaccine next year.
Okay I understand your point of view but have a question how are you to build an immunity without being infected. Because from what I understand is that once you are infected your body will in fact end up damaged in one way or another so how are we to end up with an immunity without compromising our health conditions

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Okay I understand your point of view but have a question how are you to build an immunity without being infected. Because from what I understand is that once you are infected your body will in fact end up damaged in one way or another so how are we to end up with an immunity without compromising our health conditions

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As I said, two ways to get immunity... vaccine or coming down with the virus. Sure, a tiny percent of folks might have some damage and some will die. But the vast majority can come down with it and have no symptoms whatsoever or very mild ones. That is life.
 

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Okay I understand your point of view but have a question how are you to build an immunity without being infected. Because from what I understand is that once you are infected your body will in fact end up damaged in one way or another so how are we to end up with an immunity without compromising our health conditions

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Let me give you a hint on what damages your body...

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...LIVING!
 

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If people refuse to wear face mask, refuse to social distance, and refuse to self quarantine when diagnosed positive. How are we ever to get back to normal?

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I'm curious. How do you think wearing a mask and social-distancing will get us back to normal? Do you think that'll magically make the ChiCom virus disappear?

I agree that people should stay home when they are sick, but considering people are asymptomatic when they first get it but are already shedding the virus, how are people to know they should already be staying at the house?

We're beginning to learn that the KungFlu has a lower mortality rate than the seasonal flu. We also know that the numbers are far from honest. As a matter of fact, we are learning that much of the official information given us is inaccurate.

Fear is a deadly and controlling thing and it is being used against the world. Stop letting them cause you to live in fear.
 

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How are we ever to get back to normal?
Please explain how you see the world getting back to normal? When? At what cost?

You see, life is full of choices. For every decision made regarding getting back, there is a cost and a time frame. If we want to get back to normal the quickest, we do nothing extraordinary, besides isolating and protecting the most vulnerable. People will die for a short period and then we get herd immunity. If we are in no hurry, then we shut down the world economy, isolate from everyone, and wait for a vaccine. Less people die from the virus but the economy is destroyed and our country goes to shit. I'm of the school of thought, that our economy can't wait for a vaccine. I know my business can't.

Now, the role of government in restricting citizens is another story altogether.
 

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Okay I understand your point of view but have a question how are you to build an immunity without being infected. Because from what I understand is that once you are infected your body will in fact end up damaged in one way or another so how are we to end up with an immunity without compromising our health conditions

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"your body will in fact end up damaged"
This is patently false.
New York City proved it for us. 25% of the population of that city is estimated to now carry antibodies for the SARS-COV-2, and most never knew they were infected.

A new study out of Stanford is shining more light on the over exaggeration of this virus and its effects. (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.13.20101253v1.full.pdf)

In the unlikely event we ever get a vaccine that is clean of negative affects/agreements, that actually works against the half-dozen strains of "coronavirus" we know affect humans, and is cost effective, you can wait for it.
However, in the much more likely event that we never see such a vaccine (especially given the fact that we don't have one for any of the previous coronavirus outbreaks that had much higher death rates, like SARS and MERS), the best thing we can look for is a treatment solution.
This is what will help those who cannot fight the disease the virus causes on their own, and allow them to recover from infection.
If you think there is a way to permanently avoid infection forever, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you...

The president has proposed a solution from what he's heard from doctors and scientists fighting this disease, and other options have also been promoted. Once these become mainstream treatments, this whole thing becomes a thing of little worry. It will be just like we think of influenza now. Potentially dangerous to the elderly, seasonal, hit-or-miss vaccination, and extremely low death rate.

Welcome to the human race. We've been beating the hell out of these bugs throughout our entire existence. One day, one might get us all. But not this one, and not today.
 

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Jeez.. I cannot believe the amount of people out there that believe some of the BS that is floating around instead of looking at actual DATA and facts.

I’ll bottom line it for ya...

If your under 40 your chances of getting ill from the virus much less sick and die are virtually nil. You may “catch” is but not even know it. And if you do it will be like a cold. If your 50 and over, be cautious but again the sickness and death rate for 50-65 is low. If your over 65 be very careful and if your over 80 or in a nursing home take the maximum precautions. And on top of that it all will depend on your general health.. hence the large number of deaths in the over 80 group.

Otherwise, go about your freaking life.

Jeez...

PS.. if your obese, have high blood pressure or in generally bad health.. now is a good time to get back into some type of shape.
 
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