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I don't believe in it. Even if it happens, it's happened many times before in the last few years and nobody talks about it.
 

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I think it could happen.couple months ago there were strong flares and I had no cable or phone for about a day,i was miserable lol so I think something stronger could disrupt services.
 

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Been watching Solar Cycles for a long time....Its what Ham Operators do and I've lived through 4 of em. 44 years worth! The current solar cycle is a wimp...A wuss....So miniscule it wouldnt make a wart on a real solar cycles arse!....Even predicted highs next year are the PITS! Most Distance talking hams are totally dissapointed in the current cycle because it hasnt caused the easy distance talking the others have.

In April 2005 we had an X20 Flare and it did no damage.....So far on this cycle we have had a X6.9 and its did no damage...Chances are it will get no worse and just die out in a fizzle!
 

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Been watching Solar Cycles for a long time....Its what Ham Operators do and I've lived through 4 of em. 44 years worth! The current solar cycle is a wimp...A wuss....So miniscule it wouldnt make a wart on a real solar cycles arse!....Even predicted highs next year are the PITS! Most Distance talking hams are totally dissapointed in the current cycle because it hasnt caused the easy distance talking the others have.

In April 2005 we had an X20 Flare and it did no damage.....So far on this cycle we have had a X6.9 and its did no damage...Chances are it will get no worse and just die out in a fizzle!
Well I've just recently started paying real close attention. Honestly, I feel and entire global electronic shut down taking us back to the mid 1800's will be the only thing that will save our country, but that's another topic. You have been watching them longer than I am old so I value your opinion. Have you been hearing that we should be having a Carrington Event type flare soon? Supposedly every 100-150 yrs it's supposed to come about and we're due one? Also, the one's that hit in 1859, 1958, and the late 90's was during a solar minimum. So in '05 we had an X20 that did no damage? Was it aimed directly at us or was it one of those glancing blows? Thoughts?
 
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Well I've just recently started paying real close attention. Honestly, I feel and entire global electronic shut down taking us back to the mid 1800's will be the only thing that will save our country, but that's another topic. You have been watching them longer than I am old so I value your opinion. Have you been hearing that we should be having a Carrington Event type flare soon? Supposedly every 100-150 yrs it's supposed to come about and we're due one? Also, the one's that hit in 1859, 1958, and the late 90's was during a solar minimum. So in '05 we had an X20 that did no damage? Was it aimed directly at us or was it one of those glancing blows? Thoughts?
My thoughts (backed up by irrefutable fact) are that CME , EMP and any other fairy tales are not real. Carrington was a small bump in the road and a grid went down for a little while that was cobbled together with boards and bailing wire and hand-laid lead solder to start with. Modern systems are nothing like those old dinosaurs they were using back in 1850. We experience little Carrington events around microwave emitter towers and you don't hear anyone complaining. MY thoughts? Fairy tale. Never going to happen.
 

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For the record, here's a list from the net of major solar flares that have hit the earth in the past-

Sep 1859- Telegraph wires burst into flames, touching off fires .Telegraph machines scorched paper printouts, stunned operators with electric shocks, transmitted gibberish, and continued working for hours even after being unplugged from the batteries that powered them. The Earth itself was no longer "grounded"!

November 1882- another massive solar flare lit lamps, disrupted telegraph communications, and set off several fires on the Chicago telegraph switchboard, melting instruments.

November 1903- solar storm not only disrupted telegraphs and the transatlantic cable; it even shut down Swiss streetcars.

March 1940- severe solar storm burnt out fuses and damaged hundreds of miles of telegraph and telephone networks.

March 1989- a major solar flare shorted out Quebec's power grid. Circuits also overloaded in Great Britain, New York and Virginia. A critical transformer melted in New Jersey.

November 2003- an "X" solar flare, the strongest of solar storms, temporarily disabled many satellites, killed one satellite completely and and burned out an instrument on a Mars orbiter. The crew of the International Space Station took shelter, reporting elevated radiation readings and "shooting stars" in their own eyes.

September 2005- a string of "X" solar flares caused lesser disruptions to major power grids and knocked out the GPS system completely for ten minutes.

June 2011- a moderate solar flare caused minor satellite disruption, unusual amount of static on phone lines.

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The key word here is electronics. They have only recently become widespread and are VERY delicate. Of course an EMP won't damge heavy wiring,transmission towers and power sources.
However, it will damage the electronics that control and operate most of our devices. It is relatively simple and cheap to protect one's devices at home,so why not do so?
Being an electrician I could tell you right off the bat you're incorrect about that idea. Electronics of the early 80's were very delicate. These days just about everything you use is heavy duty by yesteryear's standards. I spilled a zima in my old server and it didn't even shut off. Control panels, IC controllers, relays...these things are built to withstand some serious voltages, I am completely certain no solar storm is going to collapse the globe's infrastructure. If that storm that powerful DOES come along, kiss your butt goodbye because not only would it blow away the atmosphere it would likely melt the surface of the earth as well.

I see below Lucky Jim's pointing to the 'examples' we have seen in the past. If you knew how many times someone has cited those to me- I can recall most of them from memory seeing them raised so many times. It still has no valid argument and holds no water. The power systems of the 1800's were held together with bailing wire and nails. It's a wonder they didn't catch fire just sitting there unmolested. Power systems in the 80's were getting there, still not too sturdy but they did what they were made to do and still held up pretty well. Aside from isolated incidents the world never even noticed. These days the grid is tied to all manner of huge power sources and oceans of load, probably more than an emp event is able to generate. EMP isn't some magical concept that defies physics. EMP's do NOT just 'stop' electricity from flowing. They overload things too weak to handle the load inducted into the system's components, namely electrical connections and switches.

Guys, I have seen phones today that operate on enough current to kill a man. I have seen kids toys that can kill you if you stick a finger in the wrong spot. Last I checked most devices aren't sitting on a table already pushing electrical loads that are just beneath their capability to. Old televisions from the 80's? SURE, they were also known to electrocute electricians trying to fix them. You won't see a TV today that can do that. Most things we use and build today are already well capable of surviving this phantom 'EMP' or CME that will never and has never come to pass. Carrington was fine after a few weeks, so were all the others. This is not primetime TV here, there are conventions such as magnetic dynamics and physics at play here that are not being considered.

And to answer your quoted question: It is relatively simple and cheap to protect one's devices at home,so why not do so?

answer: It is also easy and cheap to keep vampires away from my preps by hanging wreaths of garlic on the shelves. I'm not going to waste my time on it because vampires aren't real. According to my present knowledge, neither are killer EMP's and coronal events. If they were we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Guys, whatever floats your boat. If it makes you feel better, wrap your iphones in tin foil and go ahead do the cars too. I personally have no fear of ghosts so I'm not going to spend my time chasing them. I chalk up this CME / EMP stuff to the same nonsense that created the nibiru / planet x / reptilians conspiracies. If I had ever seen one shred of verifiable evidence that anything said about EMP's was real, I'd be all over that. And I would still be all over that, I invite that conversation. I would believe in it if someone could point out even part of it that is real and verifiable.
 
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