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I was gonna say that too. There is only armor- like as in no guarantees. I can shoot any armor made with my rifle and it's gonna get defeated. Soldiers with M4's and AR-15's will have trouble getting through a good armor setup but then again even the best helmets made won't stop even that. Helmets stop stuff more like glancing blows and rocks falling and to protect from someone swinging a ball bat at your skull or falling off a vehicle and bashing your head. They don't really stop bullets, SURE as hell don't stop rifle rounds of just about any kind. And you have to keep in mind, too- if you are wearing just a vest and helmet, and the helmet doesn't really stop bullets, WTF happens when a round clips you in the shoulder socket or god forbid takes a kneecap out? Maybe hits a femoral artery? Now those guys who robbed that bank in LA and challeneged the whole police force, they were wearing some high tech serious balls-out full body armor. Even they were taking rounds in the feet and hands and that's what eventually got them.
 

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^--- Do you belive everything the Discovery Channel or Nat Geo puts out? If so, you'd have long since decided that all preppers are crazy.

OT: If you're looking at body armor, don't go cheap. That said, the prices aren't that bad. Ebay has a ton of SAPI and ESAPI plates for decent prices, ie, couple hundred for a set. A vest and soft armor will cost more, but honestly body armor is not something you want to go cheap on. Cheap will equal at least one of two things: more weight, or much lower quality. Neither is good.

As for rifle plates being useless after a few rounds, that's not exactly true. I can't find the video they do with .308, but this video shows the testing with 5.56, and it wasn't until two rounds landed on top of each over that they had penetration:
 

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lemme tell you first hand, dragon skin is not the answer. Breaks very easily. sapi plates on the other hand. after about 1 or 2 rounds of 5.56 hitting it turns it into a paper weight .. at least a military version. i got lucky a couple times. but just know as expensive as they are not always a necessity . . theres a lot you can and can't do with a plate carrier.. weight and mobility play a big part. I guess its just important to know if you really need one?

When SHTF its always a good thing to have but will you need it?.. the 1,000 to about 1,600 dollar question.
 

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Make sure you get a good helmet to go along with the fancy ballistic plate. Kind of a game around here to see who can head shoot deer, longest shot. My best so far is 225 yards with the 270. I'm not even in the top ten. Pretty tough neighborhood.
 

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Ebay.
You can get pd retired vests sometimes.
I bought mine from a friend when the local pd was getting new stuff.
Level IIIa for $100, unexpired.
my buddy from the local pd gives me the retired vests for me and my friends/kids.
isee you mentioned expire. what does that mean? how long do they last. lapd gets new vests every 2 yrs.
 
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