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Guess the new guy doesn't believe in holding folks accountable for their actions.

And the good little weasel face doctor should be number one on the list for helping the illegal gain of function research by the Chinese that gave us COVID 19
I simply pointed out the hypocrisy in your statement. You said and I quote “ She and her ilk can not keep a civil tongue in their heads.” That is something your “side” and “kind” are just as guilty of. If you don’t like the facts I can’t help that.
 

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You do realize your last statement proves the point that your just being a hypocrite. If it actually mattered to you you’d wouldn’t try to justify one side doing it because the other does it, but that means you’d have to actually have the moral compass to understand why it’s actually wrong all together, regardless of political ideology. I mean, I can’t begin to imagine why you want to make posts like this, then ignore the other side of the coin. I mean it wasn’t all that long ago the right was calling for the hanging of a sitting vice president, planning the kidnapping of a sitting state governor… Those sound like things a traitor would do, wouldn’t you agree?
 

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There is a loaded question, I think to find a true answer to that you should start with the Native Americans, after all they were the true citizens here long before anyone else was, especially those from England.
 

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You can't help but notice that no one who is pro-illegal entry into our country is willing to post a number that would finally threaten the sovereignty of OUR nation ..
It’s funny how everyone who’s ancestors came here and took land from the original inhabitants think they have a leg to stand on when it comes to legal immigration…..
 

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Don't see you volunteering to go back to the old country
Gee I wonder why, maybe just maybe it’s because world wide the system is broken? And instead of actually doing anything to fix it people just complain like you do? You know when it costs up to or more than 10,000 dollars and 10 years to go through the legal challenge maybe it’s time to say maybe we’re doing something wrong. But then again that would take common sense.
 

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Only fools like the democrats see the system as broken. It was never intended to allow just about anyone to enter. When our country was growing, there was plenty of room for every one that came. But they came with what they brought. No hand outs from the government. But today the left thinks it's fine to let murders in and give them what we don't even give our Vets or retiree's. And just for the record I've worked for the last 54 years within the system doing what could be done to ensure that the right things were done for or to the right people.
For some reason I find your last sentence entirely hard to believe, because it’s well known the system is broken and it’s not just “democrats” that think it is. It’s clear you do as well or else it wouldn’t be a issue you even complain of, but again that would be a common sense thing.
 

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Only fools like the democrats see the system as broken. It was never intended to allow just about anyone to enter. When our country was growing, there was plenty of room for every one that came. But they came with what they brought. No hand outs from the government. But today the left thinks it's fine to let murders in and give them what we don't even give our Vets or retiree's. And just for the record I've worked for the last 54 years within the system doing what could be done to ensure that the right things were done for or to the right people.
Oh and if you are worried about the vets, maybe you should reconsider that statement, especially when republicans Will frequently vote against bills to benefit our veterans.
 

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So what's your vision of how America survives if we just keep letting anyone into OUR country .. Do you honestly believe that there is no limit to what we can absorb ..Do honesty believe that America is NOT capable of failing ?
And do you not think neither party actually doing anything to solve the problem rather than crying and whining about it to get elected by people who believe “this will finally be the year they do something “ isn’t leading us to failure? I mean both sides complain year after year after year and yet don’t lift a finger to actually do anything. They complain year after year after year about the deficit and national spending but yet can’t pass a balanced budget, can’t spend within our means, pass rules and laws that leads to wasteful spending, continue to sink money into projects that have huge budget overruns, way behind schedule, allow things like a normal hammer we can buy at lowes for 10.00 to be sold to the government for 100.00, the DoD and Pentagon holding on to money til the last second then panic buying millions of dollars of things like lobster, 600,000 dollar office chairs (per chair). I mean there is so much wrong that I can almost bet immigrants won’t be what breaks this country. As long as both sides keep shelling out way above what we take in and they keep printing money, it won’t take long before we go to bed and wake up like Kenya when their dollar collapsed and a load of bread skyrockets to 1,000,000.00 overnight. Think it won’t happen here? Why do you think prices are going up? Inflation is because the value of the dollar is sloop lower and lower, it’s not prices of things going up, it’s the amount of money it’s taking to reach the same value it did before. There is a reason our founding fathers created our system to not be a two party ruled system and we’re starting to see why. I’m just sitting back and watching history repeat its self while everyone else has the wool pulled over their eyes….
 

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I don't think we will survive the way things are. The talk earlier was about illegals. We have laws that need to be followed. There IS a process to come in legally. It takes time and costs money. But, in the same respect, illegals pay thousands for the cartels to get them across the border, then they are home free.

For the average American, break a law, and you will pay the price. Yet in many cities, many crimes are not worth the time to pursue. Theft has increased dramatically. A good example is Target. They announced a multi-million dollar loss estimate for the year due to organized theft rings. In SF, Walgreens was called racists because they shut down a number of stores. People would just walk in and take what they want. Up to $1k, a ticket can be issued, but the police don't even bother. The crime won't be prosecuted.
Crime is a issue, but not in the way most people think. In order for crime to be prosecuted and criminals to be held accountable there must be somewhere for them to go. When you have jails and prisons full of people for things like speeding, bad tags, bad licenses, possession of weed, drunk in public, and all of these other victimless crimes, when someone who steals, assaults, maims, rapes comes along there’s no where to house them long term, that’s why things like that happen. It’s from knee jerk politics who make laws based on a knee jerk reaction. For example, they are still using science from the 1960s that’s been proven incorrect as their basis for keeping weed illegal. Why? Cheap labor. It generates income for the states. Why waste the time going after people when there’s no where to put them?
 

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Yeah, the prison system is full of bad licensed, speeders and probably parking ticketed folks. Those are huge crimes against society. :rolleyes:
You can roll your eyes til you see brain, but I can guarantee you whatever state your in its a criminal violation punishable by fines and jail time. Heck in my state it’s up to a 2500 fine AND up to 12 months in jail so. Yeh there are people in jail for that.
 

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Yeah, it's probably a good thing to let the professional free to do what they do best.They have a right to conduct business just like everyone else. Ya gotta love the east coast.
Not just the east coast. California it’s up to 6 months in jail and 1000 fine. Now jail is local jail not state prison, so when have a 50 bed local jail, and it’s full from people who didn’t do anything involving an actual victim, they didn’t hurt anyone else, where are you going to put the ones who have hurt someone?
 

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You do realize that weed today is much stronger than weed of 50 years ago. And where you live simple possession is only a class 3 misdemeanor and simple speeding - not reckless driving - is only punishable with a fine. Same goes for parking tickets . Might want to actually look up the law before you whine. Oh and simple possession - no internet to distribute - allows sn individual up to four ounces.
Really now? I’d love to hear you explain how a plant has managed to strengthen what it produces over time. I know the laws, and stand by what I said. I’m sorry I forgot that your unable to understand what examples are, that is something that is very rare. Now i also under your skewed views on things, and it makes perfect sense. Why would anyone who works for a broken system that allows for cheap easily obtainable labor want to actually fix the system? I mean it works so well 🙄.
 

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Funny if you would have taken a little bit of time you could have done a Google search and found that the concensus is that today's weed has a substantial higher concentration of THC than that of the70's. And I do realize that you have little or no faith in our system of government nor our judicial system. But having lived under a benign dictator for a good number of years I can tell you this is light years better than any other. And while you can sneer at me and all those others who've worn the badge we're proud to be a part of the solution and not part of the problem
I have a hard time believing that, given what I’ve seen. Cops rally against reforms but yet cops with child porn get off scott free. Tell me why should I trust a system like that?
 

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You wont have to worry about the Cops. They will be at home trying to defend and take care of their own families. There will be no law. Your Cop haters paradise..
Show where I said I hate cops? So being critical of the double standards, lack of accountability, lack of prosecution for crimes they commit, the fact the system as a whole is broken makes over accepting the status que makes one a cop hater? I’m sure you never stopped to consider that one can hate the system and it’s flaws while still holding respect for the cops who actually do the right thing, don’t turn into a revenue collector, and actually do the job the way it is supposed to be done. I mean it’s hard to sit here and begin to understand why anyone would say something like you do, which gives off the appearance that you condone things like the ex officer from Worcester County md who was charged with if I remember right 29 counts of possession of child porn who got a slap on the wrist and told to be good for 2 years and it will all be dismissed…
 

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A few examples:
Ex-CHP Officer Eric Lund convicted of child porn 5 years
Ex-Redwood City Officer Shawn Nimau convicted of child porn 2 years
Ex-Red Rock community College police officer Davis Delaney convicted of child porn 10 years.
Enter Cops convicted of child porn, it's amazing how many have been caught and convicted.
Plenty of Ex-Cops are being sent to jail/prison for child porn, in general they get busted and do time.

Trusting the system depends on your lawyer and what proof they have your guilty, I've seen some people walk and you just shake your head and ask how.
And there as just as many who don’t. But then again, these are the people who are supposed to be the ones who are supposed to uphold and enforce the law, but yet when something like this seems so prevalent with that group it should raise red flags, and concerns but apparently for some it doesn’t. I mean I remember Boston PD coveted and protected a officer and their unit president for years for child rape and abuse charges. When the system doesn’t want to change and things like this are happening, one must start to wonder why those in the system don’t want to see a change….
 

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Well.. My Dad is a retired Sheriff's Deputy, and my Brother is a current LEO. Nether one is a Pedophile, and both would pull your sorry a55es from a burning car. So i'm just going to let this thread go, and move on.
And? My brother in law is a cop. Again one can hate the system and what’s broke in it and want to see it changed while also supporting the parts of the system that works as it should, then there are ones who just don’t care that it’s broken, because of their blinders.
 

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I could give you quite a number of dirty cops who no longer wear the badge and are doing hard time in prison among those they put away. But I also know of two that were not charged but forced to resign. In their case convicting them could have caused hundreds of cases to be called into question. I knew both officers and a good bit of what caused them to stray across the red line. In their case they'd spent way too much time in that cesspool. Their supervisors should have pulled them before they fell victim to temptation. Pedophiles in any form deserve everything the system can throw at them.

Good cops have even less tolerance for bad cops than you do. But we do agree that there too many cops that don't belong wearing a badge. Take that up with your local elected officials
You just proved my point. You’d rather see them get off than possibly have their past cases looked into, why? If everything was done right nothing would change with a past case. That just smells of coverup. Let’s use the cop out of Florida who was planting drugs on traffic stops just to arrest people, would you agree that any past drug arrests he made should be reviewed to ensure no other innocent people were involved, or should any prior arrests not be reviewed and have possible innocent people in jail, with criminal records, etc (one person even lost custody of their kids) over a wrongful arrest?
 

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I haven’t condemned every cop but I’ve said multiple times the system is broken and needs to be fixed, but yet apparently doing that is “ brand all cops by the action of a few” there’s a lot that we could do to fix the broken system but anytime someone brings it up, it automatically makes them a cop hater, liberal, etc etc etc. A great example a local cop and the department here caught a lot of grief from other officers from stopping and writing a ticket to an office duty officer from New York for driving 71 in a 45 in his personal car on vacation. Cops bashing a cop for enforcing the law says we shouldn’t have to follow the laws we enforce and are above the law. Would you agree that is a bad image?
 

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Of course he broke the law - in this case a crime of reckless driving punishable by up to a year in jail. Course if he badged me he's getting the summons. And yes I've arrested a judge and wrote the town attorney a summons. But that's me. Now do I know the whole story on your case? Nope. I can tell you that one Saturday I stopped a vehicle that had almost caused two head on collisions. Guy gave off a very distinctive odor. Failed all of the field sobriety tests. Blew 0.00. he was a diabetic who hadn't eaten. Did I write him? No. We left his car at the curb and drove him home where he could get something to eat and get his blood sugar right.

It sounds as though you May not be fully versed in how the commonwealth system of justice works
You haven’t answered my question, in fact you deflected from answering. That’s great that’s what you did, but out of one there’s more than likely 10 who turn a blind eye, and a few who would still charge the diabetic, seen that first hand. Another good example, a ex friend of mine became a state cop., wrecked his patrol car and totaled it. I asked another cop I know a hypothetical if a cop wrecks his car what happens and his exact words were “what accident “ wink. I mean we can’t have two different justice systems and not expect there to be peace and harmony when we treat one group differently than the rest of the country. I can’t count on one hand how many personal vehicles I’ve seen with the police dept tags on them that just blow by you on the highway Ike your sitting still. So yep me, since I don’t understand commonwealth law, what the law is on speeding above the posted speed limit, when it’s allowed and what must be done for emergency vehicles. For the record I’m well trained in emergency vehicle operations.
 
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