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This is how they carried out house to house searches after shutting down the city, and to think these people cheered the way it was handled.
Boston a model for martial law
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Well I don't think they cheered that, but they did cheer getting the guy and that I can understand. I don't like the idea our nation can impose a door to door search at the whim of politico's and bureacrats who demand it. That is alarming to me. Boston perhaps the sheep are a little easier to heard; I dare say there are some houses in my areas of dear ole liberal CA they might have more trouble - a lot more trouble.
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We are here to protect you, do as we say if you don't want to be shot. The consitution is dead if they can suspend it for over 1 million people because one armed person is on the loose.
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With that many men, you could sweep that house in a lot less than 6 minutes...seems like a lot of poking about time.
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It was obvious even from this far away non of the people that were led out of the house were the person they were looking for yet they were all treated as criminals, "Keep your hands up" each of them patted down and the lady that left with the dog, the dog was taken away from her, notice it tied to the fence after she is escorted away.
I hope there are a ton of civil rights cases against the city of Boston over this.
I hope there are a ton of civil rights cases against the city of Boston over this.
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First off why don't you all get real. This wasn't just one lone nut with a gun. This was a dedicated terrorist who'd already shown a willingness to kill or maim large numbers of innocent folks with bombs. And rememeber we had no idea how deep this plot/cell goes. Would you rather he got to an MBTA station Friday morning and set off one of those suicide bomb vests and killed a hundred folks? And guess what this little twerp was hiding in the area that was being searched.
A good chunk of you preppers need to get a real life and learn how to deal with the real world. I'm betting that none of you have ever met a real life murder or sicko child molester. Yeah! they really do look just like you and me.
A good chunk of you preppers need to get a real life and learn how to deal with the real world. I'm betting that none of you have ever met a real life murder or sicko child molester. Yeah! they really do look just like you and me.
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And those were real families that were forcibly taken out of their homes at gunpoint while government officials searched their homes and their person without a warrant, probable cause or their consent. It is clearly unconstitutional regardless of what "better good" the police were trying to accomplish. Are we a nation of laws or are we a nation of men?
If you are okay with suspending the Constitution during extreme situations like occurred in Boston, just remember you are never more than one crisis away from living in a police state.
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Agreed. Armed police patrolling the streets is good. Telling people to stay inside is good. Knocking on doors and asking if the occupants were OK is good. Entering and searching without warrants does not fly. Totally unconstitutional.
What would have happened if they yanked open my door and there I was with my AK, protecting my home and wife from mad bombers on the loose?
As Judge Napalitano said on Fox News, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and nowhere there-in is there any provision for suspending the Constitution.
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Sad, is so many people right now today would gladly give up their freedom, for what they might perceive as safety. Big Brother will not come in as a bully, nor a thief in the night but among cheering hoards of misguided people.
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More than once, I have had one of my main battle rifles locked, loaded, and ready for the bg's due to something "happening" near my place.
I'm more than competent to take care of my little piece of America, . . . and what was done in Boston was totally out of bounds. But then again, . . . the majority of those folks prefer the liberal, socialist agenda, . . . so maybe they asked for it, . . . and got it.
Nothing, unfortunately will probably come of it, . . . it'll be swept under the rug.
You may be 100% correct, Lucky Jim, . . . but we have constitutional protections in the states that are supposed to prohibit those kind of actions. I realize the UK has a different set of rules, . . . and it looks like we're going to wind up with some different ones ourselves.
May God bless,
Dwight
I'm more than competent to take care of my little piece of America, . . . and what was done in Boston was totally out of bounds. But then again, . . . the majority of those folks prefer the liberal, socialist agenda, . . . so maybe they asked for it, . . . and got it.
Nothing, unfortunately will probably come of it, . . . it'll be swept under the rug.
You may be 100% correct, Lucky Jim, . . . but we have constitutional protections in the states that are supposed to prohibit those kind of actions. I realize the UK has a different set of rules, . . . and it looks like we're going to wind up with some different ones ourselves.
May God bless,
Dwight
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This whole ordeal hit very close to home for me. I live in northern New England and have family near Carlisle which is just a town away from Watertown. I actually agree with Rice Paddy Daddy on this one. I think it was great the way they shut the whole place down and pursued this guy to the maximum and made an example of what happens when you f*** with Boston on this level. However, violating our Constitutional rights in the process is NOT OK.
I am fine with door-to-door checking, but definitely not in the fashion we are seeing in the video unless certain circumstances are present. I guess this video leaves me with more questions than answers about why this specific search occurred the way it did in the video. This video completely lacks context and I guess I need more information before I can make up my mind about the whole thing.
How do we know police didn't have some kind of a warrant or lead that the guy might have been inside that house? Did they obtain consent to search from the owner when the door was opened? How do we know every house was searched in this manner?
On a side note - I'm completely disappointed (and surprised) by the fact that terrorist #2 was taken alive. Now he's gonna be even more of a drain on taxpayer resources.
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I don't think it would be OK to have a bunch of armed idiots. That don't have enough common sense to check and see if the gate is locked before crawling over the top. To be allowed the "right" to search my house with a loaded gun. AFTER, I already told them no one is in here. I know some complete stranger would be able to search MY house better than me and tell me it's OK. What do I know??
It's plain and simple conditioning of the sheep/people that they can come and do whatever they want.
It's plain and simple conditioning of the sheep/people that they can come and do whatever they want.
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No good deed goes unpunished, the man that called the police and said he thinks someone is hiding in his boat. It looks like the police shot his boat up trying to flush the bomber out. Maybe if he spends 30,000 dollars on lawyers he will get reimbursed for damages.
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I watchws that video this morning and got bored after the first 4 minutes, who the hell has that many people in their house in the middle of they day?
Short of it being a daycare or assisted living I thought that was strange.
Also if you live in New England or really any big city get used to warrantless searches like this.
My advice would be to NOT ANSWER THE DOOR!!! You are not required to answer your door and unless they have search warrant they cannot enter.
In this situation I would have NOT ANSWERED THE DOOR and called 911 and asked to be put in contact with the commander on the ground (on my private property)
Without a search warrant I would say get off my property, when push comes to shove I pick shove if you get my drift.
Short of it being a daycare or assisted living I thought that was strange.
Also if you live in New England or really any big city get used to warrantless searches like this.
My advice would be to NOT ANSWER THE DOOR!!! You are not required to answer your door and unless they have search warrant they cannot enter.
In this situation I would have NOT ANSWERED THE DOOR and called 911 and asked to be put in contact with the commander on the ground (on my private property)
Without a search warrant I would say get off my property, when push comes to shove I pick shove if you get my drift.
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I could be wrong, but it seems to me that your attitude is what got the UK there great gun laws. They love your kind of help. I'd rather take a few risks than give up my rights!
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