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We are looking at some property so set up our BOL. There is an Indian reservation in the are and I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts pro/con.
 

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It depends on which reservation. It really does.

Like noted above, if they are totally dependent on uncle sammy I'd be worried about them and what they might do to obtain essential resources for themselves without a govt holding them back. Then - opposite - they might be a great bartering opportunity if you are producing something and have the muscle to protect it.
 

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As a part time tribal police officer and an individual whose great great grandmother was full blooded Shawnee Indian, I would look closely at the reservation itself. There are reservations with extremely high crime rates. There are many with violent crime rates 8 times higher than national average, but those crimes are way more often than not, committed against other tribal members. There are others, like mine, with crime rates lower than local rates. We're very "Mayberry". If it's a small reservation, like mine, they're typically pretty quiet and have strong local connections with the surrounding communities.

If the reservation is what's called a "Checker Board", meaning its boundaries are a combination of Indian Trust Land, private, commercial or county owned, it is generally quiet except for the non-natives. For some unknown reason, non-natives on a reservation have the same opinion that people have when they go to Vegas; Anything goes. Not the case. A neighboring reservation to mine (just a few miles away) is a checker board and the majority of the crime is committed by non-natives. Places like Pine Ridge or the Navajo Nation which are "Closed Reservations", have extremely high crime rates due to poverty and lack of law enforcement services. On the Navajo reservation (covers four states) for example, it may take an officer 10 to 12 hours to respond to one call, deal with it and make it back to their post.

If you buy land near a reservation, make sure your access is not exclusively through the reservation. We have non-tribal land with housing that can only be accessed through the reservation. It's the only way in or out. Also understand that many reservations may have a large enrollment of tribal members, but very few of those will actually live on the reservation. Tribal Trust land is just that; trust land. It belongs to the tribe. The tribe will "lease" the land, even assist in building the house (low interest loans), but ultimately it all belongs to the tribe. The rest is low income tribal housing. This is where the problems typically occur, but this is true in any community with centralized low income housing. So much so that in my city, they leveled the entire place. Literally kicked them out and brought in heavy equipment. HUD sold the land to the city and dispersed everybody throughout the county. Centralized low income housing equals one thing; High Crime.

Indian Country is fundamentally no worse than any other community. You do have "militants" but generally speaking, Native Americans are just like the rest of us, they have their own cultural and community issues just like the rest of us, they like to have fun like the rest of us, play X-Box, surf the net, have Facebook, drive cars, hunt and fish, go to school dances, play sports and so on. If you have ever taken the time to sit down and read a treaty, any person with a sense of right and wrong would be angered by the treatment of these people. I was.

We can all agree that there are many things that need to be fixed in these communities and I am telling you straight from the horses mouth, most of the problems they experience were created by the government, are continued by the government and I have read many Senate Reports on these issues and the solutions they offer are token at best and nothing more than lip service.

I guess I would say, don't be afraid of moving near a reservation. Just research it. If it's a community (tribal or not) that you don't feel comfortable living in or near, don't move there. I wouldn't move to the projects in Chicago or live in Tacoma. But don't fear the Indians because they're Indians. They're good people, with exceptions like any other group of people.
 

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History tells us that indian land is the first to be "appropriated" by the feds. It is the first to be contaminated, left dry and infertile.
I will keep my distance. In WA. they are still appropriating indian lands.
 

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All of the comments have been very interesting and given good food for thought. I just wanted to add something. I am in no way worried about living near Tribal members for any reason. They are just people. I have one aunt and one uncle who are full Ute and one aunt who is full Navajo. They were adopted by my grandparents back when that was allowed and I live alot closer to the Rez. right now than my BOL is. It crossed my mind because , like some said there is a high level of govt. influence/intervention/dependence within a pretty dense population. Many will suffer and it will be very hard. I haven't really every heard of tribal gangs, crime is low. There is sometimes tension between tribal and non tribal, but it is really low-key. They are a really tight knit community. One concern is there are still occasional Tribal land border issues and disputes and I wonder if shtf if that will escalate...I don't want to get caught in that. Closest is the Ouray Rez. outside of Vernal, Utah. Largest, but a little bit further, Ute Rez. near Whiterocks.
 

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What fun is a casino when the power goes out?!?

Really though, I've only heard this second hand, but understand crime around reserves is insane in the best of times. Largely racially motivated teens on both sides. :/ May turn very ugly for both races when times g

Indian Reservations have the the highest crime rates in the country but the FBI does not count them in the crime stats because they are sovern nations within the country.
 

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A lot of it, I expect, depends on the nation. Mrs Inor is 100% Mountain Mandan American Indian. Her people a small off-shoot of the North Dakota Mandan and are fiercely independent. I would have no compunction whatsoever having them as neighbors. They would shoot a government social worker faster than I would if offered a handout. The North Dakota Mandan, not so much.

As far as all the hate crimes that Mrs Inor perpetrates on me, I think those are more related to having to endure me as a husband than me being a white-honky-cracker. :)
 

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a lot of it, i expect, depends on the nation. Mrs inor is 100% mountain mandan american indian. Her people a small off-shoot of the north dakota mandan and are fiercely independent. I would have no compunction whatsoever having them as neighbors. They would shoot a government social worker faster than i would if offered a handout. The north dakota mandan, not so much.

As far as all the hate crimes that mrs inor perpetrates on me, i think those are more related to having to endure me as a husband than me being a white-honky-cracker. :)
creepy ass cracka circle those wagons!!!!!
 
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