Out of curiosity, what is the better idea to store? I have fire starters that I have made and waterproofed that are very easy to make from materials around the house that normally get thrown out. Is it better to keep a bunch of these or to buy a bunch of 1# propane bottles?
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1 lb bottels work better in mr heaters 20 lb grill size propane is a better option. Fire starters are for just that starting fires in a camp or well vented stove.
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Most every store sells the little brass adapter to refill those small propane bottle from a big BBQ grill tank. And how many houses will have abandon bbq's sitting in the back yards when SHTF? I also bought a flexible hose to attach to make the process MUUUUUCH easier.
Handy EOTWAWKI Note: You know those big grey transformers at the top of telephone poles? Their filled with mineral oil.... It could just be possible a .22lr puts a pretty clean hole in one... Just saying....
Oh, good idea to have a 5 gallon bucket handy! That's what I heard anyway...
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/next-generation/4345791
Handy EOTWAWKI Note: You know those big grey transformers at the top of telephone poles? Their filled with mineral oil.... It could just be possible a .22lr puts a pretty clean hole in one... Just saying....
Oh, good idea to have a 5 gallon bucket handy!
That's what I heard anyway... http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/next-generation/4345791
Depends on what you're looking to do. If you're planning on using a propane stove then the bottles would definitely be better but if you're looking to actually start a wood fire then I'd go with the fire starters since they'll almost definitely take up less space than the bottles. A compromise might be best and keep some of each on hand. A propane camp stove wouldn't be a bad idea since it can be used indoors but one of the white gas stoves might be better since I understand they can be run on a few different fuels (I've never tried it).
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I guess it depends on what you're going to use them for.
The propane bottles would be a good barter item and are probably more versatile, but I wouldn't want to have a lot of them stored if I had a house fire... things could get real exciting real fast.
The homemade fire starters are much cheaper, but probably less versatile. If they are that easy to make, you could just have a stock of raw materials and make them after the fact.
What is your intended use?
The propane bottles would be a good barter item and are probably more versatile, but I wouldn't want to have a lot of them stored if I had a house fire... things could get real exciting real fast.
The homemade fire starters are much cheaper, but probably less versatile. If they are that easy to make, you could just have a stock of raw materials and make them after the fact.
What is your intended use?
I watched somebody try to do that on TV. Better have a funnel on a stick with a long hose attached if you want to get much of it by yourself.Most every store sells the little brass adapter to refill those small propane bottle from a big BBQ grill tank. And how many houses will have abandon bbq's sitting in the back yards when SHTF? I also bought a flexible hose to attach to make the process MUUUUUCH easier.
Handy EOTWAWKI Note: You know those big grey transformers at the top of telephone poles? Their filled with mineral oil.... It could just be possible a .22lr puts a pretty clean hole in one... Just saying....
Oh, good idea to have a 5 gallon bucket handy!
How Transformers Can Explode - Popular Mechanics
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I say take your neighbors car and knock the pole down!
neighbors got a Festiva, don't think I could get enough of a run at it.I say take your neighbors car and knock the pole down!
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I have made and waterproofed.
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Still fun. "Hey man, can I borrow your car real quick? Just need it ONE minute."
"Here's your keys back.... Oh THAT? Remember that time you borrowed my tree pruner and gave it back messed up? We're good!" :lol:
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If your trying to cook on it or use it to knock the chill off, I would suggest looking at one of these type stoves too. I have a single burner one that runs off Gas or White Gas. Its a pretty awesome little piece of gear to tell you the truth. Holds about a pint of fuel and will run hard for about three hours or a bit more. Coleman makes a two burner version that's more popular with campers and they also make the laterns that are "duel fuel". While gas can go bad after a few months of sitting, white gas doesn't although it does cost about twice as much. Think too about this cause how much gas in in you vehicles...my truck holds 35 gallons! At 3 hours a pint of burn time...that's a lot of cooking before I run out of fuel! Just saying...
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I contacted Coleman years ago about how long their fuel (white gas type) would last in storage. The said if it was full, it would last about 6 years. He gave me a tip. Open the top a bit and gently squeeze the can until a bit over flows, quickly tighten the cap. Now all the air (oxygen) is gone and you could probably get 8 years out of it. Oh! Don't try it in a gas engine. Too low of octane and will damage the engine. Save the can for no lead gasoline if you have a "dual fuel" Coleman stove or lantern.
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