Trying to give the BOB's a revamp. Lookin' at food. Thoughts???
I unfortunately don't have any military buddies that could hook me up :/ darn! Thanks for the advice though!If you are near a military base... find a military buddy and have him buy them on base. They are $7.71 at the base commissary. It's a bit more than buying at bulk prices... but you can buy individual packs... and get the ones you want... not just some random selection in a bulk pack.
The price of MRE's has gone up considerably over time. I still find them selling cases at pretty much every gunshow I've been to for longer than I can remember. They've normally been around $65 per 12 pack case of complete meals with heaters, but different states and places have different standards of what people will pay and how they can rob them. Ask yourself whether you need the complete meals though in there full packets with heaters. (water/chemical reactive heating packet). You don't want to pack full meals for a backpack or BOB. There's a lot of extra packing and junk not beneficial to carry for weight and space. Full meals are good to pass out to different people who have nothing, either because their children or live like them. Which if their not actually children in age, you're wasting good food on in my opinion and feeding the moronic scavengers who will follow you because of it. There are places you can buy online and I suggest you search who's got the best prices these days for what you want. Prices have certianly gone up and I'm sure are only going to continue to.Good thread, I also have a question. Is the MRE foods usually pretty expensive? It seems like any time I look for those kinds of meals, they are so high priced! Is that normal or is there another place I can look for better prices? Like the Wise brand, I thought it seemed pretty crazy that it was that pricy. Is it normal?
What do you pack now and for what time frame? 72 hours, a week, long term?Trying to give the BOB's a revamp. Lookin' at food. Thoughts???
Long term comes down to either living off the land without a solid BOL (if you can) or getting to a solid BOL, which can be depending on where yours is at, be a longer road than you've got food in the BOB for if you're living off it. Solid BOL to me anyways meaning location able to sustain for as long as you live which will be hopefully a long time. That means setup for it of course. To feed yourself past what you've got in the BOB, everything in it needs to go as far as possible that's where what food you take has to give good calories for what it takes in weight and space or trade out to better choices. Than the means to put food in your mouth by others means. Fishing (kit), hunting with weapons, trapping (wire,550), finding and eating safe bugs, and knowing and eating the right plants that can sustain you. Using those to fill your belly are a mix of the right packing choices and the skill and knowledge to use them. The choices you're packing in food listed above sound like they can be improved on for what they offer in calories compared to the weight and space they take. I prefer to carry food that though may be heavier, I can fit more of in the pack. Afterall, the pack will lighten as I eat it and I'm not carry anything I can't haul to begin with. Lots of good recommendations so far for you, it's whether you want to go with those options. One item passed onto me that can go much farther for the weight and space not mentioned yet is bouillon cubes. They, with a canteen cup or small pot to mix them in can be the base, (even cut in half or quarters) for a good soup out in the bush with various plants or other edibles and give a person a good soup/stew to fill them with little weight and space carried.Cheese crackers, jerky, treat meat (none of that spam crap lol), oatmeal, and some Idaho mashed potato pouches right now. Trying to figure out a few better options. I could do about 5 days now but I'd like to be more long term if possible. I'm lookin' for some creative ideas.
And that's a solid choice as long as you're in a place with lots of fresh water sources and have a long sustainable way to clean it. Otherwise, water can be more important than food in some cases.I currently have stripped down MREs in my BOB, but I'm planning on replacing them with Mountain House Pro Pak meals. They're smaller, lighter, and taste pretty good too. The shelf life on the Pro Pak meals is impressive as well. Combined with a New Millennium power/survival bar, I feel that they make a more size/weight efficient meal choice than MREs. The downside, of course, is that they're dehydrated, so I'll need to mix them with water to get anything I can eat out of them.
It's why so many people go with MRE or dehydrated entree's are their main staple and add the extra goodies from there. As they offer more substance for weight and space than pretty much anything else out there. I don't know how what you're packing is in substance for you, but I know it wouldn't be for me. I'm a meat and potatos, meat and rice and meat and pasta kind of guy. Give me two bowls, one with oatmeal and one with ground beef annd rice. Same size and after eating the oatmeal I'll still be hungry, but after the ground beef and rice I'm not. Which is why I pack what I pack. I've got pound cakes, granola bars, Cliff bars, jerky and trail mix, but no wear near the size and amount to stripped down MRE entree packets. One per day with some Kudzu, or pine needle tea, a couple bugs, wild grass, mustard, dandelions, etc and I'm living. A squirrel or fish, or two, or something bigger and I'm eating with no need for the MRE entree packets. Depending on how much meat I can get off of something and dry it for later, the longer I'm not touching the reserves. That's what the MRE entree packets are if I can keep them as, are reserves to last as long as possible for when there isn't anything else. That's long term sustaining to me for getting to the BOL that will take me more than 72 hours.The reason I started the thread was that our BOL is quite a hike from us and we may be on the move for months in a worst case scenario. I'm pretty adept and surviving off the land but I was trying to get the most use of out the food in my BOB's.