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If the 2nd American revolution starts here and you're in it, don't waste you ammo. Be smart about what you're firing at. Think tactics with who your with. Remember your fields of fire. Don't shoot you buddy trying to be Rambo. Don't run into fire like a moron pulling your trigger till your magazine runs dry and hitting nothing only to be hit yourself. Don't blow yourself up shooting handheld rocket launchers behind a wall and not clear it. Don't throw grenades with a leather sling thong. Think about your objectives and the best way to achieve them with as little losses.

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Three things come to mind... One, what a crap hole.. Two, I'm surprised they could hit anything but not surprised they were shot (spray and pray) and three, they have shoulder launched anti-aircraft missiles?

As was said, let Allah sort it out.
 
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I see the same attitude in the US everyday. Most conservatives have a "damn the torpedoes all full ahead" attitude. Add to that the obsession with large magazines.

Remember we won the Revolution by losing battles but making the cost of victory than the cost of the loss. It is also how Robert E. Lee betrayed the South. He knew how the inferior army his father helped command stained victory. He did exactly the opposite and got more men killed in the Civil War than Americans killed in all other American wars combined. That comment is about how the war was fought not why it came about.

I doubt if 1% of those itching for a fight have read a single book on strategies of war. Maybe 10% have any military training but less on tactical training past following orders.
 

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As a Southern/Southwestern conservative, who sees no point in a 5 rd magazine, and has extensive military and tactical training I assure you that as for me personally, I ain't itchin' for no more fights. I am, however, not very good at being a victim. In fact, I really suck at it.
 

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I see the same attitude in the US everyday. Most conservatives have a "damn the torpedoes all full ahead" attitude. Add to that the obsession with large magazines.

Remember we won the Revolution by losing battles but making the cost of victory than the cost of the loss. It is also how Robert E. Lee betrayed the South. He knew how the inferior army his father helped command stained victory. He did exactly the opposite and got more men killed in the Civil War than Americans killed in all other American wars combined. That comment is about how the war was fought not why it came about.

I doubt if 1% of those itching for a fight have read a single book on strategies of war. Maybe 10% have any military training but less on tactical training past following orders.
Robert E. Lee betrayed the South?
 

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I love that commercial. From what we've seen from them over there it seems pretty accurate too.

There are certainly those itching for a fight without the understanding of what it means. I don't itch, but I know it's something that has to be done at this point if we want our country and freedoms back. Their not going to give them back and the government is out of control of the people in the hands of particular groups who use whatever means they can to sway and placate feeble minds while continually increasing their control of us. How badly we're taxed, their not simply going to stop spending the money and run a smaller more efficient government. Their not going to simply take away the laws that make doing one thing to a government agent or agency a crime while it's justifiable to do it to a citizen. Their not going to stop restricting where we can go and how, what we can have and can't, what we can do and can't in their approval. The only way to get our freedoms and country back is taking it by force. Talking and voting don't matter anymore.

That a large percentage have no training, no knowledge and little brains is the reality. Throughout history though it isn't much different. Soldiers have to be trained and commanders have to lead them. In the 2nd revolution the way I see, we won't have any chance if our own military and the weapons in part doesn't side with the people and the ability to fight technology with technology, advanced weaponry with advanced weaponry. I hate the thought of fighting our military having been a part of it, seeing the faces of friends and the like who'll than be enemies, but a person has to chose a side and that side decides your actions and your allegiance. The other side is the enemy and they chose to be there.
 

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Robert E. Lee betrayed the South?
Yep! Compare and contrast the actions of those leading the fight against the king and those leading the fight against the north. You will clearly see Lee's strategy was counter to our Revolutionary fight. Lee's strategy was doomed from the start. That strategy got more men killed in both sides than necessary. I put Lee in the same category as Benedict Arnold.
 

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Interesting perspective. Lee was Lincoln's first choice to command the union armies. Lee had an almost impossible task. He probably knew it when he took the job. I applaud he for taking the fight to the enemy.
 

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Yep! Compare and contrast the actions of those leading the fight against the king and those leading the fight against the north. You will clearly see Lee's strategy was counter to our Revolutionary fight. Lee's strategy was doomed from the start. That strategy got more men killed in both sides than necessary. I put Lee in the same category as Benedict Arnold.
And this opinion of yours is based on extensive study of the War Of Northern Aggression?

For those, like me, who appreciate Gen Lee, I offer the following link Robert E. Lee Birthday Celebration
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I applaud he for taking the fight to the enemy.
Then you must curse the leadership of the Revolutionary War.

Taking the fight to the enemy is exactly the strategy that will lose if it becomes necessary to revolt against Obama and his ilk.

Do you want a fight or do you want to win?
 

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And this opinion of yours is based on extensive study of the War Of Northern Aggression?

For those, like me, who appreciate Gen Lee, I offer the following link Robert E. Lee Birthday Celebration
Enjoy.:D
Part of my military and college training was taking advanced classes under a former OSS officer at the masters level. This is one of the semester papers I wrote. I got an "A" on the paper and course. I was also asked to present my paper to the classes at the start of the next semester.
 

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I suppose you can point out where Virginia relinquished its sovereignty. It had to be sometime after 1787.
 

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I see the same attitude in the US everyday. Most conservatives have a "damn the torpedoes all full ahead" attitude. Add to that the obsession with large magazines.

Remember we won the Revolution by losing battles but making the cost of victory than the cost of the loss. It is also how Robert E. Lee betrayed the South. He knew how the inferior army his father helped command stained victory. He did exactly the opposite and got more men killed in the Civil War than Americans killed in all other American wars combined. That comment is about how the war was fought not why it came about.

I doubt if 1% of those itching for a fight have read a single book on strategies of war. Maybe 10% have any military training but less on tactical training past following orders.
And your point is? Curious comment about magazines... I guess your in the camp of limiting magazine capacity... Or just control.
 

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Part of my military and college training was taking advanced classes under a former OSS officer at the masters level. This is one of the semester papers I wrote. I got an "A" on the paper and course. I was also asked to present my paper to the classes at the start of the next semester.
Good for you. An A. Just because you receive an academic A doesn't make it right, or correct, just shows that you thought something out and presented it well.

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