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This is heinous, and it is an attack upon everything decent. Some gender blender walked into a convenience store and took an axe to 2 people. {It looks like a guy, trying to look like a girl, at least to me.}

For me, my defense would have been, to go for the throat of the attacker. By that I mean, I would have stopped the stabbed him in the throat, while defending against his swing. If you close in to an attacker with a long weapon, you take away some dangers, but not all of them. He can still bust you in your face, and then use the axe, while you are stunned.
 

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Well I would have definitely taken the threat seriously from the beginning, and most likely would have just left the premises immediately
What about the danger posed by the ax maniac? Would you take him out or just let everyone fend for themselves? Would you yell out AXE!
My thinking is, that it is a right now kind of danger, and would need remediation. Even if it meant picking up a can, and bashing his brains in with it.
 
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I don't think either one of them saw it coming. Of course, it's not every day someone walks into the Kwik-E-Mart packing like Paul Bunyan. I think the best defense would have been to maintain distance. But the guy seemed to be having a cordial conversation with....... 'it'.
 

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Something definitely seemed off, I'm sure they don't sell that axe in the store. I don't know for sure if I would have yelled axe, possibly. But I wouldn't have taken any action to remove the axe from the person. Next thing you know, you'll be the one going to jail. I really honestly and truly would just get the F out of there
I saw it coming. I've seen crazy, and the first guy was a few inches away and should have been able to see it
 

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I don't think either one of them saw it coming. Of course, it's not every day someone walks into the Kwik-E-Mart packing like Paul Bunyan. I think the best defense would have been to maintain distance. But the guy seemed to be having a cordial conversation with....... 'it'.
Something like that is unforeseeable, it does no occur to people that there really are psycho axe killers out there. OK, you maintained distance, then what? Would you shoot him/it?
I would do everything within my power, to take the axe away, that is my thinking. And when the cops showed up, I would explain myself some, and tell them to review the tape.

And, yes, I would expect to be arrested, if I killed that bastard.
 

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Something definitely seemed off, I'm sure they don't sell that axe in the store. I don't know for sure if I would have yelled axe, possibly. But I wouldn't have taken any action to remove the axe from the person. Next thing you know, you'll be the one going to jail. I really honestly and truly would just get the F out of there
I saw it coming. I've seen crazy, and the first guy was a few inches away and should have been able to see it
OK. I would have gotten violent with it.
 
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So from the beginning I managed to put myself in the shoes of the guy who started out having a conversation with it. If I were him, I would have definitely seen it coming and expected the worst outcome and I would have left immediately.

If I were to be blindsided by that, and had enough wits about me, of course I would shoot until the threat was gone.

But, just seeing someone in the store like that, you bet I would just get the hell out as fast as I could
 

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I think I will just stay out of shithole countries that would restrict my ability to put 3 230 grn HSTs to center mass. That seems to be a safe option.

On a different note, how much of a loser is the attacker that he/she struck two people in the head with an axe and somehow did not appear to have killed either one of them?
What if it happened at your local Circle K? Would you be willing to kill the attacker? And at what point would you put the .45's into it? A lot of this is rhetorical, and meant to have people think.
There is nothing stopping that from happening in America, and it would be easy for someone to sharpen up an axe or hatchet, so that it would split a skull. That axe may not have been sharp.
 

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Something like that is unforeseeable, it does no occur to people that there really are psycho axe killers out there. OK, you maintained distance, then what? Would you shoot him/it?
I would do everything within my power, to take the axe away, that is my thinking. And when the cops showed up, I would explain myself some, and tell them to review the tape.

And, yes, I would expect to be arrested, if I killed that bastard.
As long as you maintain distance, you're relatively safe. If I had any reservations, I'd retreat further, draw my carry weapon and be ready. That alone may be enough to keep me safe. If 'it' came at me, yeah, I'd open fire. Self-defense, pure and simple.. And yes, I'd probably be arrested as well. And like you, I'd let the store's security camera exonerate me

Maybe the criminal charges would be dropped after the DA reviews the video, but I'm sure the family will sue civilly. They always do. That's why one buys carry insurance.
 

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So from the beginning I managed to put myself in the shoes of the guy who started out having a conversation with it. If I were him, I would have definitely seen it coming and expected the worst outcome and I would have left immediately.

If I were to be blindsided by that, and had enough wits about me, of course I would shoot until the threat was gone.

But, just seeing someone in the store like that, you bet I would just get the hell out as fast as I could
OK. Me personally, my thinking is not about escape, it is about neutralizing a self-evident lunatic. Maybe thumbing it in the eye, would have worked, I don't know.

My first idea would be to go for throat, BUT, I surely would not have engaged in conversation. That was a stupid thing to do, and I am sure that the man was taught to do that.
Because, that is so stupid, that it must have been thought up by psychologists, and then taught in schools. Just look at how that worked out, that guy will be scarred for life.
 

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The problem was recognition and getting away before anything happens, then dropping your guard so the ax weilder gets the first blow in. I believe even a knuckle sandwich to protect yourself will result in jail time in the UK. While I votes kill the bastard you would have to be prepared to charge in an instant or jump back and draw before your struck with that ax. These people were not mentally ready to defend themselves or avoid conflict. The best victory in a fight is avoiding it IMHO.
 

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The problem was recognition and getting away before anything happens, then dropping your guard so the ax weilder gets the first blow in. I believe even a knuckle sandwich to protect yourself will result in jail time in the UK. While I votes kill the bastard you would have to be prepared to charge in an instant or jump back and draw before your struck with that ax. These people were not mentally ready to defend themselves or avoid conflict. The best victory in a fight is avoiding it IMHO.
Transfer your thinking from the UK, to the US and put yourself in a Circle K or Seven Eleven. The axe maniac has taken a swing at the idiot that is talking to him, what would you do?
That is my question. And what about Americans, have they been conditioned to avoid danger at all costs? I would say they have. And that is the wrong answer here.
Violent confrontation is the right answer.
 

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Wow. Lizzie Borden walks right in, and nobody takes notice. A person comes into my space with an ax, a machete, a kitchen knife, or a crowbar I am instantly AWAKE. I am not trusting enough apparently to assume there's a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why someone is carrying an AX into the store.
 

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Wow. Lizzie Borden walks right in, and nobody takes notice. A person comes into my space with an ax, a machete, a kitchen knife, or a crowbar I am instantly AWAKE. I am not trusting enough apparently to assume there's a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why someone is carrying an AX into the store.
UK? I thought gun control was supposed to take care of this problem of violence...

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-47159808
Yeah, if I see a would-be Lizzie Borden with an axe, my alarm bells will go off. And I would like to say that Britain has become a nation of idiots and savages.
 
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No question about it, "distance" is your friend. No knife is going to be effective against a determined aggressor with a long handled weapon.

Sorry, but I would take a head shot or two. This is where a Crimson Trace is the ideal weapon, with me two aisles away.
 

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No question about it, "distance" is your friend. No knife is going to be effective against a determined aggressor with a long handled weapon.

Sorry, but I would take a head shot or two. This is where a Crimson Trace is the ideal weapon, with me two aisles away.
OK, but I respectfully disagree, I would go for the carotid.
 
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