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Something to keep an eye on...

Apparently, the cops were clearing out some sort of antifa "autonomous zone" when one of the idiots shot a cop. The cops shot back and killed one of them so now they're calling themselves victims and they're calling for a "night of rage".

A tweet from the idiots that has since been taken down:
“On Friday, January 20th, wherever you are, you are invited to participate in a night of rage in order to honor the memory of our fallen comrade,”

The way it's worded means there could be trouble anywhere. ...and you can bet Merrick Garland and his band of political weasels will be too busy putting angry parents on the domestic terrorist list to help out.

 

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I suspect if they do anything at all it'll probably just be throwing rocks at a starbucks downtown.

These dumbass cop-killers aren't stupid enough to raise hell anywhere they don't have big city police protection, they know it'd be suicide.
 

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A cop friend of the family said they don't chase speeders anymore.
In fairness to your cop friend, was it his decision to not chase speeders or was it his department policy?
I'm a retired 2nd. generation cop (State Police Sergeant) When I started we had three policies: Obey the law, Enforce the law, Don't do anything to discredit the Department. By the time I retired the Policy and Procedures manual filled fourteen 2" binders.

You're either "law enforcement" or you're a bench warmer waiting for your pension to vest.
I knew hundreds of cops over the decades, I never knew one who wasn't ready to enforce the law.
...but what about the cop who's 2 years from retirement, too old to start another carrier, has a department mandated camera strapped to his chest, 2 cameras in his unit, a dozen screaming pink haired freaks pointing cellphone cameras at him, a crowd of "journalist" and a 'catch and release' DA just waiting for him to get in a pursuit, against policy, with an LGBTQEIEIO transgender person of color over a petty misdemeanor speeding violation?
 

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He never mentioned it was stated department policy.
Pursuits are very serious things, they pose more risks to innocent bystanders, by far, than any other police action. You're friend's department may be the exception, but I don't know of any department today that still allows pursuits for petty misdemeanor traffic violations.

Unless they're an obviously danger to other drivers
If the driver isn't currently posing a danger to anyone, the last thing you want to do is force him to drive like a murderous jackass through hundreds of innocent bystanders. There are safer ways to catch the guy ...there's an old cop saying: "you might outrun my Chevy but you'll never outrun my Motorola" (back in the day all police radios were Motorola)

In my opinion, he's either a cop or he's not. Distance from retirement does not adjust the job expectations.
Remember we're talking about a petty misdemeanor traffic violation , the exact same violation everyone of us commits everyday. We're not talking about 'real' police duties.

You're saying that you'd willing to potentially throw away an 18 year investment in your life, your career, your income for the rest of your life, your house and the lifestyle you planned to live in your golden years to get into a dangerous pursuit with someone who's only violation is the same petty violation you committed a dozen times on the way to the doughnut shop this morning?
 

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In reality, I doubt that our two arguments are very far apart.

You can refer to it as petty,
It's not my opinion, it's the legal term for the only class of violation lower than a misdemeanor.

the reality of the situation is, the officers are doing less enforcement of the law than they previously were. That's a bad precedent.
I never met an Officer who didn't want to do his job but their hands were tied by weak DA's, liberal city counsels and state legislators and weak department policies.

And no, I'm not going 20+ miles over the speed limit multiple times a day.
No one said anything about going 20 over (that's getting into careless driving or maybe even reckless driving) You just said "chase speeders', speeding means going faster than the posted speed limit. ALL of us have gone faster than the posted speed limit at some point.

Your history will bias your view of what I'm saying.
That's almost certainly true and I would argue that your lack of history (with this subject) gives you a biased, idealistic view of realities of law enforcement.
 

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Potato, Potahto. Texas calls a minor traffic violation a Class C Misdemeanor, New Mexico calls them a Petty Misdemeanor.

My last comment on the subject(I hope): your friend doesn't get into a pursuit (insanely dangerous) unless there's an obvious/active danger to others. He sounds like a wise and prudent officer who's willing to stand in harm way when others are in danger but he's not willing to create the danger himself over a simple traffic violation.
 

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People have always driven fast, and it's always been responded to with a pursuit to stop the person breaking the law.
Are you confusing a pursuit with a traffic stop? A pursuit is when cops have to chase some jackass until he t-bones an innocent motorist at an intersection or wraps himself around a phone pole. A pursuit is a big deal. It requires a mountain of paperwork and, almost always, involves a use of force review because someone, almost always, gets hurt or killed.
 

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Nothing happened in suburban America either.
Ironically, these anti-cop turds only raise hell where they know they have police protection. They know what will happen if they leave the deep blue downtown areas.
 
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