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Something to keep an eye on...

Apparently, the cops were clearing out some sort of antifa "autonomous zone" when one of the idiots shot a cop. The cops shot back and killed one of them so now they're calling themselves victims and they're calling for a "night of rage".

A tweet from the idiots that has since been taken down:
“On Friday, January 20th, wherever you are, you are invited to participate in a night of rage in order to honor the memory of our fallen comrade,”

The way it's worded means there could be trouble anywhere. ...and you can bet Merrick Garland and his band of political weasels will be too busy putting angry parents on the domestic terrorist list to help out.

 

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Apparently 6 of the little turds they arrested were carrying explosives. Things could get interesting.
The only explosives I saw were fireworks.
Technically, yes... effectively... no.
 
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Sounds like a Purge. Didn’t they make a few movies about that?
These antifa types may have more to worry about than the police in future if they are looking for a purge.

There may be a whole bunch of folks out there that take a page out of the LA Riots Rooftop Koreans plybook when it comes to protecting their lives and property.

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What kind of idiot would it take to want to be a cop these days? Unless it paid very good? According to world history 101 the folks in ancient Rome had to pay the Centurions so much money to protect them from the angry heathens it broke the budget. Sounds logical. I would volunteer if they paid half a million per year.
 

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A cop friend of the family said they don't chase speeders anymore. Unless they're an obviously danger to other drivers such as intentional collisions or drunk, it's just not worth the risk and hassle anymore. All of his fellow officers do this.
He said he doesn't feel like he's a good cop anymore.
I'm sure he's looking for sympathy, but he didn't get much from me.
You're either "law enforcement" or you're a bench warmer waiting for your pension to vest.
I only have respect for one of those.
If you don't feel you can do the job, find a different job.
 

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Interesting thought.
What happens when we reach a point where NOBODY wants to be a cop?
The beginning of the end me thinks ...
 
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A cop friend of the family said they don't chase speeders anymore.
In fairness to your cop friend, was it his decision to not chase speeders or was it his department policy?
I'm a retired 2nd. generation cop (State Police Sergeant) When I started we had three policies: Obey the law, Enforce the law, Don't do anything to discredit the Department. By the time I retired the Policy and Procedures manual filled fourteen 2" binders.

You're either "law enforcement" or you're a bench warmer waiting for your pension to vest.
I knew hundreds of cops over the decades, I never knew one who wasn't ready to enforce the law.
...but what about the cop who's 2 years from retirement, too old to start another carrier, has a department mandated camera strapped to his chest, 2 cameras in his unit, a dozen screaming pink haired freaks pointing cellphone cameras at him, a crowd of "journalist" and a 'catch and release' DA just waiting for him to get in a pursuit, against policy, with an LGBTQEIEIO transgender person of color over a petty misdemeanor speeding violation?
 

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So they tossed a few rocks or whatever and lit on fire few things and swung a tool to bust some innocent objects, when it comes time for toe to toe hand to hand they couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.
If they could a lot more officers would of been hurt during that riot.
Had they let the officers put their hands on those kids they wouldn't think to do this again.
 

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In fairness to your cop friend, was it his decision to not chase speeders or was it his department policy?
I'm a retired 2nd. generation cop (State Police Sergeant) When I started we had three policies: Obey the law, Enforce the law, Don't do anything to discredit the Department. By the time I retired the Policy and Procedures manual filled fourteen 2" binders.
He never mentioned it was stated department policy.
I knew hundreds of cops over the decades, I never knew one who wasn't ready to enforce the law.
...but what about the cop who's 2 years from retirement, too old to start another carrier, has a department mandated camera strapped to his chest, 2 cameras in his unit, a dozen screaming pink haired freaks pointing cellphone cameras at him, a crowd of "journalist" and a 'catch and release' DA just waiting for him to get in a pursuit, against policy, with an LGBTQEIEIO transgender person of color over a petty misdemeanor speeding violation?
In my opinion, he's either a cop or he's not. Distance from retirement does not adjust the job expectations.
 

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He never mentioned it was stated department policy.
Pursuits are very serious things, they pose more risks to innocent bystanders, by far, than any other police action. You're friend's department may be the exception, but I don't know of any department today that still allows pursuits for petty misdemeanor traffic violations.

Unless they're an obviously danger to other drivers
If the driver isn't currently posing a danger to anyone, the last thing you want to do is force him to drive like a murderous jackass through hundreds of innocent bystanders. There are safer ways to catch the guy ...there's an old cop saying: "you might outrun my Chevy but you'll never outrun my Motorola" (back in the day all police radios were Motorola)

In my opinion, he's either a cop or he's not. Distance from retirement does not adjust the job expectations.
Remember we're talking about a petty misdemeanor traffic violation , the exact same violation everyone of us commits everyday. We're not talking about 'real' police duties.

You're saying that you'd willing to potentially throw away an 18 year investment in your life, your career, your income for the rest of your life, your house and the lifestyle you planned to live in your golden years to get into a dangerous pursuit with someone who's only violation is the same petty violation you committed a dozen times on the way to the doughnut shop this morning?
 

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Pursuits are very serious things, they pose more risks to innocent bystanders, by far, than any other police action. You're friend's department may be the exception, but I don't know of any department today that still allows pursuits for petty misdemeanor traffic violations.


If the driver isn't currently posing a danger to anyone, the last thing you want to do is force him to drive like a murderous jackass through hundreds of innocent bystanders. There are safer ways to catch the guy ...there's an old cop saying: "you might outrun my Chevy but you'll never outrun my Motorola" (back in the day all police radios were Motorola)


Remember we're talking about a petty misdemeanor traffic violation , the exact same violation everyone of us commits everyday. We're not talking about 'real' police duties.

You're saying that you'd willing to potentially throw away an 18 year investment in your life, your career, your income for the rest of your life, your house and the lifestyle you planned to live in your golden years just to catch someone who's committed the same petty violation you committed a dozen times on the way to the doughnut shop this morning?
You can refer to it as petty, but the reality of the situation is, the officers are doing less enforcement of the law than they previously were. That's a bad precedent.
No, I would not be willing to do it. That's why I'm not a cop. That's why he shouldn't be a cop either.
When you agree to do a job, and you refuse to do that job, you should find a different job.
And no, I'm not going 20+ miles over the speed limit multiple times a day. They don't chase ANY speeder. 5 miles over, or 40.

I'm not taking an anti-cop position here. Your history will bias your view of what I'm saying. I'm being as objective to the situation as I can be.
If a person cannot fulfill the duties of their civil service role, they should not simply be able to ignore their public duty. They should accept that the job changed, and they are no longer suited to it.
Yes, that can mean sacrifice.
 
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