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On another thread AR 10's were brought up. And damn if I didn't start thinking about this. There is little information on the rifle so I am looking to see what you have to say.

What's available, what do you like and why?
 

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AR 10 is a product of Armalite they can not make an AR15 aka M16 because the sold that rights to Colt in 1959 because they could not sell it to the US military. but Colt did???. They do sell an M15 look at it seen that before?
Anyway they been around a long time and build some out standing weapons. The first AR10's were built around 1955-56.
The modern versions come in a few different calibers and versions they are and outstanding weapon, the prices also reflects that. these are not sniper rifles while they can make great shots they are what some may call assault rifles there I said it.
designed for the real fight.
This may make it easy to view a few models
AR-10 RIFLES

Take a good look at it remind you of something.

Want to see a nice one they sell
Accuracy: 1/4 to 3/4 MOA at 300 Yards Better than my M24
http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.as...Category=d4543129-c82e-4fc9-bb4d-213664c7b055
 

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308 WIN & 7.62 NATO 16-18

And yet, any AR is flawed in every individual aspect of its operation from the muzzle to the butt plate. If you need a semi-auto .308 rifle you can count on, and don't need to carry a baggy full of spare parts for... FAL. Or even better, a refined FAL. FAL-SA58 Rifles-D S Arms
 

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Remington R-25

Classic Eugene Stoner design - 20 inch barrel, can use Magpul LR-308 P-mags (including the new 25 round version); low profile gas block so no interference with optics - but you can mount iron sights if you want to; rifle length gas system for reliable operation; aluminum upper, lower and tubular hand guard; hydro dipped in Realtree camo; A2 butt stock so you can carry cleaning kit and spare parts; reportedly sub-MOA (had to move because of new job before I could go shoot mine); also accepts DPMS metal 19 round mags, and comes with four round mags so it is legal to hunt with in most states; muzzle crown for enhanced accuracy; sling studs for bipod and sling; and made in America.

There are less expensive AR-10 style rifles (DPMS), more expensive (KAC, LaRue, Les Baer, LWRC REPR, LMT MWS, etc.) but for the price ($1329) the Remington is tough to beat, in my opinion.

I looked at AR-10s for years, and that R-25 just kept calling me back to look at it. So I bought one....
 

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Having carried the AR in version m16 a1,2,3 and 4 and each version of the M4 platform I have found it to be a fine reliable weapon.
That has been the subject of bad press and bad users.
And the gas piston version is even better
 
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The SIG 716 looks like it would be a great carbine - piston gun, too.

I still dream of owning a Heckler & Koch MR762A1. That is the one I am saving my pennies for now....

Had one in my hands for $3499...should have bought it. Just seemed like an almost obscene amount of money to plunk down on a rifle.

One day.... It is on the bucket list.
 

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Having carried the AR in version m16 a1,2,3 and 4 and each version of the M4 platform I have found it to be a fine reliable weapon.
That has been the subject of bad press and bad users.
And the gas piston version is even better
I have never had a problem with any AR platform but it did have a very flawed beginning and it cost American lives in Vietnam.
 

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The SIG 716 looks like it would be a great carbine - piston gun, too.

I still dream of owning a Heckler & Koch MR762A1. That is the one I am saving my pennies for now....

Had one in my hands for $3499...should have bought it. Just seemed like an almost obscene amount of money to plunk down on a rifle.

One day.... It is on the bucket list.
Vert, I totally understand the increased heart rate, dry mouth, and tingly feeling you get when holding one, but having carried a couple of variations of the 91 on several nature walks, hill climbing adventures, and architecral appreciation guided tours lemme tell ya sumthin.... It won't take long, with bipod and claw mount especially, for her to turn into that hot chick that is absolutely awesome to get busy with but will drive ya bonkers with the constant nagging of being on your back 24x7.

Heaviest sumbiotch ya ever humped in your life.
 

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Everyone's experiences are different of course, but I've seen quite a few broken bolts over the years with direct impingement AR's, besides gas rings, tubes, extractors, and various springs burnt out way too early. A direct impingement is one of the toughest rifle on inner receiver parts I've seen and the most lubrication and cleaning needy. I've also seen AR's take a lot of beating and round count and not have any problems with parts change out being much later, but that doesn't change the fact of all the others that did. Still both an AR-15 and a .308 AR can be a good rifle if you give it what it needs, when it needs it. I prefer other .308/7.62x51mm rifles like the M14, G3, and FAL more and even though I've had various AR-15's over the years, I prefer piston AR's these days. There are choices out there and it's nice to have them.

You might look at these also,

PTR Industries

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This is from that article by the way,

At the 5,000 round mark, the bolt carriers, upper receivers, and barrels were cleaned. After observation of high speed video showed inconsistent cycling, action springs ($3) were replaced, as were extractor springs ($6.99) and gas rings ($2.19).

The second half of the test started off with several malfunctions with the Brown Bear carbine - at 5,200 and 5,250 rounds, short stroking malfunctions were encountered. High speed video showed that the bolt was barely coming back far enough to pick up the next round, and occasionally not even far enough to eject the spent case. Additional lubrication did not prevent the second malfunction.

A detailed physical examination revealed previously unnoticed carbon buildup in the gas key and gas tube which had almost completely occluded those components. The other firearms were inspected, and none exhibited carbon buildup which was even remotely close to that of the Brown Bear carbine. Cleaning of these components in the field proved difficult to impossible, and it was decided to set them aside in order to examine the phenomenon.

The gas tube and bolt carrier of the Brown Bear rifle were replaced with identical components, after which firing resumed without incident. No malfunctions occurred until 7,500 rounds, when five stuck cases were encountered between 7,500 and 8,200 rounds. From 7,500 rounds on, a number of cases with distended and/or split necks were observed.

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The carbine firing Tula had a case stuck in the chamber after 189 rounds which proved exceptionally difficult to clear, even with the use of a steel cleaning rod after the rifle had cooled. Over the next three hundred rounds, 24 malfunctions - stuck cases and failures to fully cycle, or "short stroking" - were encountered. At this time, the Tula carbine was removed from the testing, as the problems were causing significant delays.

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