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We know it's coming and we are getting ready for it but devastation in the United States is unprecedented so
no one knows for sure what it is going to be like or what to have ready. We know the basic that we need but
there will be things that we wish we had even if they are more or less comfort items. I have heard a lot people say that guns ammo and food will be the first currency that may be true but what after that? When the dust settles?
I am putting stuff back just for trading when that times comes. Stuff that you can get now really cheap is going to be hard to get and will make excellent trading stock. I was at Walmart they have an assortment of medicines for
$.88 and if you check the label they have the same ingredients and dose as the expensive name brand medicines.
The Allergy Relief has the same dose of Diphenhydramine as benadryl. Pain reliever same as tylenol and don't forget the Anti-Diarrhea (people are going to be spoiled food) and the list goes on and on toilet paper batteries junk food.
I have anything that I thought might be good for trading that was on sale cheap. I also plan on stocking up on
feminine products. So any suggestions? And are you stocking up on trading items?
Right now you can buy duracell AAA and AA 75 for $25 with an exp date os 2018. I dropped $200 and I'm cheap.
and cheap led flashlights for $1.00 with batteries.
So what's in your stash?

I use an old dresser for storage i have 3 draws of medicine



About a hundred flashlights and lots and lots of batteries



In total darkness it's surprising how much light one of these will give off in a room when you pop the
top off and expose the led bulb and makes a great hand held flashlight and solar rechargeable for $.97?
 

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Looks like you are a walmart shopper. I shop there a lot too. You can also find similar and or better deals at dollar tree. 8 pack of AA batters for $1. I don't care what anyone says that is a good deal. I use them in my remotes and other electronics and they are decent. Probably 60-70% the power/life span of a duracell. But 12.5 cents each, you can't do better.

The thing I stock up on is cheap alcohol. 7-8oz bottles of rum, vodka and whiskey. All in the $1.80-$2.50 per bottle range. I know these are going to be huge if anything happens.
 

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Looks like you are a walmart shopper. I shop there a lot too. You can also find similar and or better deals at dollar tree. 8 pack of AA batters for $1. I don't care what anyone says that is a good deal. I use them in my remotes and other electronics and they are decent. Probably 60-70% the power/life span of a duracell. But 12.5 cents each, you can't do better.

The thing I stock up on is cheap alcohol. 7-8oz bottles of rum, vodka and whiskey. All in the $1.80-$2.50 per bottle range. I know these are going to be huge if anything happens.
I don't think it's a question of "IF" but rather a question of when -- keep stocking
and that is a good price
I bought a few big bottles and have some baby food jars for small amounts
if you're getting ready for trading save all your old containers
sugar and flour (self rising ) is cheap by the 25-100 pounds
 

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I bought extra folding knives and Maglite flashlights to use for bartering. And I actually bought the knives at WallyWorld. The FAST knife by Gerber - bought them for $29.97, IIRC. I bought the flashlights when Maglite converted from incandescents to LEDs, so I got great deals on closeout inventory. My thinking was everyone will want a good pocketknife and flashlight that takes standard batteries.

Plus, I like that knife model, so having extras when I wear one out is not a bad thing, in case I never have to barter with any...still worth owning.

I don't plan on bartering with food, water, medicines, or ammo. Too valuable if SHTF, IMO.
 

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Nice stock pile.
We have stock piled a lot but still focus on doing with out as soon as we can. There will be a time trade will happen ,but that would be down the road.
When it first falls apart trade will be a major danger you will just be letting others know what you have.
I agree food will be a bit one rather quickly next will be ammo and weapons the last two I will not use for trade. I am not giving others what they need to attack me.
Do not for get skills, they will be a big item of trade or barter. Just look at how many people today have few if any real world skills.
Sending emails, texting and social media will not be in high demand.
 

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Look at what has happened in other countries when the government failed and you can prepare better.
Kosovo is a good example. In the first few weeks batteries were very important but after a short time people became akcustomed to being in the dark and using candles or small oil lamps for necessary lighting. Fuel and small lighters were in constant demand for the two years of the collapse. Guns and ammo were needed for protection from roving gangs - some of which were police and military officers who were in the same situation as others. They travelled at night, in small groups without lights to avoid snipers and gangs. Certain foods and drinks were very valuable and medicines, like antibiotics, were life and death items.
Some of the countries in South America have gone through economic collapses and you can look at what happened their and how people survived. It has never happened in the US but our depression shows the difficulty of getting by from day to day even with the government resources to help. Look at history in order to avoid the worst of the problems and go from there to plan for your own survival.
 
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Nice stock pile.
We have stock piled a lot but still focus on doing with out as soon as we can. There will be a time trade will happen ,but that would be down the road.
When it first falls apart trade will be a major danger you will just be letting others know what you have.
I agree food will be a bit one rather quickly next will be ammo and weapons the last two I will not use for trade. I am not giving others what they need to attack me.
Do not for get skills, they will be a big item of trade or barter. Just look at how many people today have few if any real world skills.
Sending emails, texting and social media will not be in high demand.
Don't forget the one skill that most kids are learning today, proper use of a video game controller.
 

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Nice stock pile.
We have stock piled a lot but still focus on doing with out as soon as we can. There will be a time trade will happen ,but that would be down the road.
When it first falls apart trade will be a major danger you will just be letting others know what you have.
I agree food will be a bit one rather quickly next will be ammo and weapons the last two I will not use for trade. I am not giving others what they need to attack me.
Do not for get skills, they will be a big item of trade or barter. Just look at how many people today have few if any real world skills.
Sending emails, texting and social media will not be in high demand.
Don't laugh but I have been learning how to make bread from scratch. With just flour, salt and yeast I can bake a loaf of white bread as good as what you buy. I have flour and propane for the oven put back. This summer I would like to build a wood fired oven outside or in a shed like they have in third world countries. I'm lucky where I live I don't think there will be many roaming gangs of bad guys the trading will start here quicker than most places. I hope fresh bread will be good for trading. That's one of my new prepper skills
 

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I got a local store selling 24 rolls for 3.98 plus tax. Costs me 4.25 I think. I'll bet 7 bundles of that is worth more than an ounce of silver some day.
 

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I got a local store selling 24 rolls for 3.98 plus tax. Costs me 4.25 I think. I'll bet 7 bundles of that is worth more than an ounce of silver some day.
You know you are right, I know you are right, 99% of the people on this forum that read this will know you are right.
So if you got the storage room why not drop $100?
And I bet it's going to be worth more than 7 bundles per oz. In the early days more like 1 bundle per oz. (or less)
A lot of folks are stashing lots of silver and no food or supplies,, I think they may in for a surprize. Everyone should have some silver just in case,, But most preppers have silver as a secondary resource.
 

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Most people have an atic. The atic is a great place to store it - the stuff works like insulation. So unlike silver it even produces interest :) I don't drop a $100 on it because most of my trips to the store are for nominal items. Fact is I don't shop too much any more. So even though I already have a life time supply of the stuff I still pick up one or two bundles on each trip.

You know you are right, I know you are right, 99% of the people on this forum that read this will know you are right.
So if you got the storage room why not drop $100?
And I bet it's going to be worth more than 7 bundles per oz. In the early days more like 1 bundle per oz. (or less)
A lot of folks are stashing lots of silver and no food or supplies,, I think they may in for a surprize. Everyone should have some silver just in case,, But most preppers have silver as a secondary resource.
 

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I have a cashe buried with only barter items, I also have a huge quantity of medical supplies in house. Here are a few ideas for barter that are in my cashe
Mouse traps
12 lbs Pool shock (dry bleach)
500 lighters from eBay really cheap
Several hundred .22 and 12 ga shells
Several 2 liter bottles of booze
Canning lids (tattler reuseable)
Leather work gloves
Tooth brushes, tooth paste, a lot of the hotel shampoo/lotion/soap bars
Lye (for making soap)
Sugar and salt (for preserving)
Candles (yard sale Christmas ones for pennies)
Hard candy
Chap stick
Lotion
Harbor freight solar panel set (3x 15 watt panels with a inverter)
Several containers if snow seal boot treatment
Break free for gun cleaning/lube
250 clothes pins
1000 safety pins
Heirloom seeds in mason jars

That's all I can remember off the top of my head, too lazy to look for the printed list.
 

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I have a cashe buried with only barter items, I also have a huge quantity of medical supplies in house. Here are a few ideas for barter that are in my cashe
Mouse traps
12 lbs Pool shock (dry bleach)
500 lighters from eBay really cheap
Several hundred .22 and 12 ga shells
Several 2 liter bottles of booze
Canning lids (tattler reuseable)
Leather work gloves
Tooth brushes, tooth paste, a lot of the hotel shampoo/lotion/soap bars
Lye (for making soap)
Sugar and salt (for preserving)
Candles (yard sale Christmas ones for pennies)
Hard candy
Chap stick
Lotion
Harbor freight solar panel set (3x 15 watt panels with a inverter)
Several containers if snow seal boot treatment
Break free for gun cleaning/lube
250 clothes pins
1000 safety pins
Heirloom seeds in mason jars

That's all I can remember off the top of my head, too lazy to look for the printed list.
Darn you got some good ideas there I was thinking of getting one of the solar kits and just leaving it in the box for trading
canning lids? That's a good one. I have a few candles but mostly stayed with solar stuff. Solar battery chargers and batteries
If you get the right solar yard and garden lights they make great battery chargers.
 

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I put full faith and trust in the governments of man kind. They will take care of me.

I do not stock pile food, water, ammunition, fuel, to insure the protection of my family.

Proverbs 21:20 There is precious treasure and oil in the dwelling of the wise, But a foolish man swallows it up.

1 Timothy 5:8 Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
 

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I'm stocking as well, things like cheap wines, feminine products (got a good deal the other day), playing cards, toothpaste and gum...and an assorted lot of things. Fixing to start making our own wine in a few weeks. But it probably won't matter what it is to some extent with some if its something they don't have or been without it'll have a value.
 

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trade goods

I'm stocking as well, things like cheap wines, feminine products (got a good deal the other day), playing cards, toothpaste and gum...and an assorted lot of things. Fixing to start making our own wine in a few weeks. But it probably won't matter what it is to some extent with some if its something they don't have or been without it'll have a value.
If you travel, or if you know folks who do, have them save the soap, shampoo, lotion , etc. from motels, for you.
They make very nice bags ( when packed in Zip lok) for trading.
Who doesn't like to be clean?
They also provide razor, tooth brush, etc.
 

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I'm just wondering. You put stuff back to trade. Others put nothing back for an emergency. So what are you planning to trade your stuff for?
 

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I'm just wondering. You put stuff back to trade. Others put nothing back for an emergency. So what are you planning to trade your stuff for?
I'm not sure,, I tend to look at this stuff like currency. I don't know what I am going to want because I don't know what I have forgotten.
There's a dairy farm down the road, Maybe some fresh milk? Or another guy only a few miles away has chickens and sells eggs. It would be a shame if they had to go without batteries for there flashlights.
And almost everyone around here has a huge garden and tons of fresh canned vegetables and canned beef also.
I could go on forever,, The point is if people will want stuff. it's future currency,, You can buy what you need with it. I know woman that sews at home maybe she can fix some of close.
A man needing food for his family will trade or do anything to get it. That's why a little fire power might be a good thing to have of you want to stay alive and keep what you got.
There's lots of stuff you can buy cheap right now that the guy making fun of you for prepping is going to need it he may even trade the gun he bought and does not know how to use.
Buy extra stuff that's cheap now. The guy you said put back nothing for an emergency? Who knows what he has to trade for a set of batteries or a little of the food you traded a few shaving razors for.
 

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<--- car salesman?

If you travel, or if you know folks who do, have them save the soap, shampoo, lotion , etc. from motels, for you.
They make very nice bags ( when packed in Zip lok) for trading.
Who doesn't like to be clean?
They also provide razor, tooth brush, etc.


I have seen some trading bags that some preppers have made for trading. And that's a great idea.
But I'm on a budget. I am trying to get as much as I can for every dollar. And let's face it it's expensive to buy in small quantities
I have been buying my stuff in big containers and having friends save me there baby food jars. The problem with ready made bags is they may have something in them that the person you're trading with does not need or want. He would give you the same amount for the bag without that item in it. So you're giving it away. Sort of like leaving money on the table. Have trading stuff on hand and just give them what they want or need. But picking stuff up at motels is a great idea. I always get "to go" catsup packs at the fast food places
and drop them in a canning jar. Keep in mind that when you open a big bottle of catsup it's going to spoil quick.

Note: the stuff I buy in bulk or large containers is non perishable stuff.
 
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