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The way these knuckleheads are going, they are going to get all kinds of experience being Leroy's bitches.
 

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One of these guys mentioned "life experiences". I would like to know what kind of experience these two have. What are their credentials?
the first to actually ask a question, thank you

well i will only speak on myself as i feel my members should speak for themselves. i myself having spent 6 years in the U.S.M.C as a reserve component to 2/23 and in that time i learned a great deal of the infantry, our tactics and the life style of a war fighter. i tend to not want to put my military experience forward as i feel "some" tend to use their background in the armed service as a "oh look at me" where as other it is a silent humble badge of honor and sacrifice, but it is a valid part of my life and im happy to have severed. due to the political climate and certain things happening here on the homefront that i could not agree with after my time was up i felt it was time to leave

i also have collected a multitude of certifications both in the corp and civ side. if you would like i can list a few

on the note of the website i would like to maybe try and clear a few things up. all of your opinion are very valid and i do respect them, however there are two reasons why we have gone the route that we have. firstly with the country in the economic situation it is that effects us the citizens and thus money is always a issue... without that beautiful green currency nothing gets done sadly. secondly in our mission statement we believe in a air of transparency, truth be told we have nothing to hide. we believe that over the years the militia moment has gotten a bad rap by popular media because many groups tend to have a "shut-in" ideology and thus the public tends to fear what they don't know. in our opinion we believe that a militia shouldn't hide, we believe that it needs to ingrain itself in it community because those are the people we are trying to help... how can we help our community if the have a unfounded hate or fear of us? we believe that a militia is not just a war time organization but someone their to render help and aid at any time weather it be a natural disaster or helping in day to day with blood donation or food donation. in short a militia is there to protect and strength its community, not just as a silent constitutional guardian.

in closing i respect your opinions and i am open to questioning as just like my group i am transparent. we don't expect you to welcome us with open arms anytime soon if ever, but understand that this group was founded with a goal and a mission that all my members feel strongly on... i don't expect you to understand it in just a few short forum conversations.

anyways good tidings to you all
 

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If you look back at my posts on this subject, you will notice that I never said anything, in favor or against, you forming a militia. My beef is with your advertising of it. Going back to your third sentence of this post:

If you do not know who we are, why are you inviting us to even know about, let alone be part of your group? Moving on...

How are you giving preppers a bad rep? Oh, I don't know, maybe being a careless idiot. How about by promoting the stereotype that we are just a bunch of backwoods know-nothing hillbillies? You seem to treat this as a game with all of your "XO" and "CO" bullshit. I assure you, it is not a game with most of us.

I am not a militia guy; I have other ideas. But if you insist on doing the militia thing AND advertising yourselves on the internet, maybe you should consider a couple other options for how to go about that:

1 - Do not use ANY name server. (GoDaddy.com? Really?) House your website by IP address only, and then only on servers that you do not own, rent or have any documented control over, etc.

2 - Change the IP address of your server at least weekly, if not daily.

Anybody that is not smart enough to find you is probably not somebody that you want anyway,

Going onto you last paragraph, do you really equate yourselves with the Patriots of 1770? They had a strategy figured out for 20 years into the future before they ever fired the first shot. You cannot even manage tactics for putting up a website that is secure and private. Really? Long term strategy appears to be well beyond your capabilities. What is your plan? Do you intend to stand out on Concord green and shoot federal workers? I will put a bullet through your skull myself if that is your goal.
First off, let me start by saying that I had no hostile intentions until I was met by it from you. Although you may not approve or disapprove of our ideas or ideals themselves, you certainly found a disdain of some sort and decided to voice it quite strongly might I add. I merely returned such attitude. And again, I've already explained to you why I saw my actions as harmless, if you wish to be reminded once more of the reason behind that deduction, re-read my posts and that of my CO's. As for not knowing who you are, again, re-read what I've said about the initiation phase. As far as stereotyping "that we are just a bunch of backwoods know-nothing hillbillies", I cannot see how I did that and I even well stated that those were not my intentions to those who were willing to not jump to conclusions, thus I see no proof or intention of what you're accusing me of. As for our titles, let me ask you this, since the military uses them, does that mean they're playing with their lives everytime they are out there on the line? Although we have no grandeur illusions of ourselves should we ever go out and ''play soldier'' if that is what you're implying. We did see the necessity of granting such titles as to differentiate who had what responsibilities and that was all. And our website? Do you think it matters what website we choose, no firewall will stop government agencies from seeking whatever anyone is hiding, especially if we merely chose a different name to follow ours on a site. It was also the most affordable one due to our lack of financing within our organization at the moment. Rest assured however that we will eventually have a site with our own name on it if that itself is what has you so frustrated. And your right, we may not be the Minute Men of the time back then, and although I have already stated we have no grandeur illusion of ourselves and what our capabilities are, we DO know our home and we have certain procedures should a certain scenario happen. And if long term strategy really is our achilles tendon, then intelligence is yours obviously. As for federal workers, I have no intentions of harming any unless they mean to do so to me or my fellow brethren.

On another note Inor, I've acquired a policy over the years long ago when it came to threatening people. I always found it at least respectable to both parties to do it in person, face to face. Otherwise, you are merely huffing and puffing your own chest for no reason other than to stroke your own pompous ego as it is rather simple to say things behind a screen and not reinforce it with any action. However, should you become intent on your empty and hollow threats, then I shall leave the door open and await for your arrival. However, I cannot advocate extreme caution enough once you enter. Have a pleasant evening Mister Inor.
 

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the first to actually ask a question, thank you

well i will only speak on myself as i feel my members should speak for themselves. i myself having spent 6 years in the U.S.M.C as a reserve component to 2/23 and in that time i learned a great deal of the infantry, our tactics and the life style of a war fighter. i tend to not want to put my military experience forward as i feel "some" tend to use their background in the armed service as a "oh look at me" where as other it is a silent humble badge of honor and sacrifice, but it is a valid part of my life and im happy to have severed. due to the political climate and certain things happening here on the homefront that i could not agree with after my time was up i felt it was time to leave

i also have collected a multitude of certifications both in the corp and civ side. if you would like i can list a few
at least your honest very few admit they are a reservist in any military
 

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well i will only speak on myself as i feel my members should speak for themselves. i myself having spent 6 years in the U.S.M.C as a reserve component to 2/23 and in that time i learned a great deal of the infantry, our tactics and the life style of a war fighter. i tend to not want to put my military experience forward as i feel "some" tend to use their background in the armed service as a "oh look at me" where as other it is a silent humble badge of honor and sacrifice, but it is a valid part of my life and im happy to have severed. due to the political climate and certain things happening here on the homefront that i could not agree with after my time was up i felt it was time to leave

i also have collected a multitude of certifications both in the corp and civ side. if you would like i can list a few
Yes, please "list a few" of the "multitudes" of your certifications. If you can, that is.
I wasn't a Marine, but served with them long ago and far away, and some of my best friends today were Marines. And you know what? None of them, not a one, would EVER call it "the corp". It's the Corps, son. Capital "C" with an "s' on the end. Marines are serious about that.
What the hell is "the lifestyle of a war fighter?"
I've been to war, but I don't know what this "lifestyle" thing is all about. Please educate me. No, on the other hand, please don't. My bullshit meter is already pegged at 10.
Fake veterans disgust me. Are you a faker?
Chisled into the black granite of the Vietnam Memorial are the names of 58,282 men and women. 445 of them were from the 1st Infantry Brigade, 5th Infantry Division (Mechanized). My BROTHERS. And when anyone tries to steal the honor that rightfully belongs to them by pretending to be a veteran I get highly agitated. Are you pretending?
Your alleged XO sure as hell doesn't know crap about combat as evidenced by his post back on page 5 of this thread.
It wouldn't suprise me if you were not really the same person.
 

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Yes, please "list a few" of the "multitudes" of your certifications. If you can, that is.
I wasn't a Marine, but served with them long ago and far away, and some of my best friends today were Marines. And you know what? None of them, not a one, would EVER call it "the corp". It's the Corps, son. Capital "C" with an "s' on the end. Marines are serious about that.
What the hell is "the lifestyle of a war fighter?"
I've been to war, but I don't know what this "lifestyle" thing is all about. Please educate me. No, on the other hand, please don't. My bullshit meter is already pegged at 10.
Fake veterans disgust me. Are you a faker?
Chisled into the black granite of the Vietnam Memorial are the names of 58,282 men and women. 445 of them were from the 1st Infantry Brigade, 5th Infantry Division (Mechanized). My BROTHERS. And when anyone tries to steal the honor that rightfully belongs to them by pretending to be a veteran I get highly agitated. Are you pretending?
Your alleged XO sure as hell doesn't know crap about combat as evidenced by his post back on page 5 of this thread.
It wouldn't suprise me if you were not really the same person.
Please do explain your accusations? I never alluded whether I've been in combat or not, I merely gave my thoughts on things that many bought up as a topic (to which none of them alluded to combat). Only fakes and fools parade about being in combat for there is nothing to cajole about being in actual combat. I respect 'Nam vets to such a high degree (some of my friend's relatives and parents are vets from that war), so my most immense respect to those on that black wall (your brothers), but my views aren't as clear for you as I have for them.

And as for my CO being in the Marines, you're asking to be proven wrong. His service jacket is still hanging in the hallway with his marksmanship badge (he calls it a pizza box) and ribbons, he still has a farewell placard from his company (which many in his unit sign), and I've seen him in his MARPAT (with Quantico markings) and his patrol cap use to sit on his table with the EGA sewn into it. The only reason for his misspelling is cause literature is not his strong point. I'll let him deal with you on his own. With respect, I suggest you take a step back and leave it be.
 

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I have tried the humorous approach, I tried the angry approach, I tried the explanatory approach. The only conclusion I can come to is that you just cannot fix stupid. I am done with this thread.
 

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Couldn't agree with you more, again, that's our deal with the initiation phase of our group, it's so we know we can trust you. Same thing with my militia brethren, no doubt we have each other's backs and when worst case scenario happens, we know where to go and who to go with. Some of us have different views on life, but one thing we all understand is that you make sure you got the back of the guy next to you in any situation. Many of us asked the question "Can you see yourself dying next to this guy?" and "When the end comes and time to for our lives to expire, can you see your body laying next to his when you're both dead?" and each and every one of us immediately and without hesitation give an unequivocal "yes".
You don't have a clue.
No one knows what they are going to do under fire until they have actually been there.
How old are you? 16?
 

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god bless 2/7. those guys make me cry. they always eat everything I cook. they are heading out again. and my heart will stand still awaiting their safe return. god bless usmc.
I'm sure they did eat everything you cooked with gusto. After all, it was cooked by Mom. And it just doesn't get any better than that.
Please know, shotlady, that I include ALL our service members, especially those deployed down range, in my prayer that I say each morning around sunrise as the new day starts.
Your sons and their buddies are "Our Boys" as well.
May God Bless them all!
 

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thank you rice paddy daddy. my son signed to be re-upped. I thought I was gonna barf.
He belongs to a fraternity where membership can not be inherited, it can not be bought, it can not be granted as a member of some privileged class.
It must be earned.
Your sons will forevermore belong to the brotherhood.
I only served three years and I was never a hero, but I did serve with some.
Those who make it a career are special men and women indeed. That is more than I was capable of.

I know you are very proud of your boys, we are too.
Please tell them an old soldier thanks them for serving our country.
 

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He belongs to a fraternity where membership can not be inherited, it can not be bought, it can not be granted as a member of some privileged class.
It must be earned.
Your sons will forevermore belong to the brotherhood.
I only served three years and I was never a hero, but I did serve with some.
Those who make it a career are special men and women indeed. That is more than I was capable of.

I know you are very proud of your boys, we are too.
Please tell them an old soldier thanks them for serving our country.
+1 for an old Marine.
 

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Well, that was a way to drive up the Lancer(s) post count.uh,We used to live in Cali too,NorCal actually,we voted with our feet which is what any sane person would do with the way my home state,Kali,is going.its just a losing battle we felt, and wrote it off.maybe you Lancers should stay there,and get liberalized like the rest of that poor state is heading.I would come and visit my relatives there but probably never will as We cannot now or ever will ever able to carry a sidearm to protect ourselves there.
 

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You don't have a clue.
No one knows what they are going to do under fire until they have actually been there.
How old are you? 16?
Considering you're a vet, I expected you to know that it's an unwritten rule amongst your squadmates/crew members. We've known each other long enough and although we've never been under fire together as a whole, we know what to expect from each other should that ever happen.

Also, last I checked, you have to be 18+ to be in a militia ("Any able-bodied person between the ages of 18-55 years of age").
 

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I think the point you guys are missing is most members don't appreciate you coming here to recruit for membership to your club. Your not really contributing anything, and you will probably be gone once your objective is met. I will give you props for posting in the California section though. A little advise I think would be helpful to you is the mentality on a forum like this is a bit different from what you are looking to recruit from. We aren't looking to start a war as a general rule. We are looking to survive. We don't think a direct armed conflict with the government is the best tactic and should be avoided at all costs. We want to be invisible, and involvement with an organization like a militia puts way to much attention on ourselves.
You would probably have better luck recruiting from a forum dedicated to weapons like the AR, AK, SKS, and similar firearms.
Of course this is just my opinion and I could be completely wrong, but if you haven't noticed your recruitment methods haven't been very successful here.
 

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You would probably have better luck recruiting from a forum dedicated to weapons like the AR, AK, SKS, and similar firearms.
Of course this is just my opinion and I could be completely wrong, but if you haven't noticed your recruitment methods haven't been very successful here.
Hey! Lancer I & II, why don't you try some recruiting over on this forum ? Index page
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You might have better luck over there.
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I think the point you guys are missing is most members don't appreciate you coming here to recruit for membership to your club. Your not really contributing anything, and you will probably be gone once your objective is met. I will give you props for posting in the California section though. A little advise I think would be helpful to you is the mentality on a forum like this is a bit different from what you are looking to recruit from. We aren't looking to start a war as a general rule. We are looking to survive. We don't think a direct armed conflict with the government is the best tactic and should be avoided at all costs. We want to be invisible, and involvement with an organization like a militia puts way to much attention on ourselves.
You would probably have better luck recruiting from a forum dedicated to weapons like the AR, AK, SKS, and similar firearms.
Of course this is just my opinion and I could be completely wrong, but if you haven't noticed your recruitment methods haven't been very successful here.
as i've stated before the recruitment post was indeed a bad idea considering as to how new both of us are on "your" forum. just like i had said before the actions of my XO were genuine but misplaced. in all honesty i would simple say to everyone how about we all take a step back as over the past few days we have all fired shots across each others bows with little to no reason... how about we all let cooler heads prevail and reconvene on a different board at a different date somewhere down the road after we all have gotten to know each other. that's my final take anyways

small side note: if you would look at post #82 we have no intention of a war with the government "even though we don't have a high opinion of it right now" we simply believe that the militia is part of our constitutional rights and that it is a way to better take care of one's community. think back daring this countries founding... the militia was the everyday citizen, he was apart of his community in that he had a job or title but was also willing to see to the defense of his community. as i had stated before i believe the modern militia movement has gotten a bad rap because of popular media and a few bad apples spoiling the bunch, but at its heart the idea of the U.S. militia is a valid and patriotic right we as Americans have. that my opinion anyways

to everyone a hopeful evening and good tidings
 

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LancerCO and LancerXO

I finally took a look at your website. You guys are like Stacy's Mom...You got it going on!

1. The hand to hand combat drills look AWESOME!
2. The Weapon Training sessions in the backyard appear to be very informative.
3. Cool hair-do on the one guy! Suggestion, everyone in your club should adopt that hairstyle. Slippy like!

I see that you boys are from Van Nuys, wasn't the high school filmed in a bunch of movies? Rock and Roll High School and Fast Times at Ridgemont High come to mind? Anyway just wanted to chime in and wish you boys all the best.
 
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