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My last reply to you, post #22 but then post #45, if you can figure out what your implying. Don't know whose butt got hurt, not mine. Drop and give us 50!
How were they seen as sexist? She said she just didn't like being hot, and while exercising, body heat does rise and sweat starts occurring. Oh wait, I see what you're saying yes, now that I've re-read those post, I know exactly what you mean now. It's okay Ekim, you can admit that you're not that intelligent to understand things.
 

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How am I giving preppers/survivalists a bad rep? Really, do explain, please, cause last I checked, we're not casting a spotlight on you or anyone else other than us. Now if something happens to us, don't worry, we're not gonna say anything to them about you...oh wait, I forgot...WE ****ING CAN'T CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO YOU GUYS ARE!!! So don't worry, you're secret identity is still safe...to US at least, however, I don't think the government can say the same. I go again with what I've been trying to say, if you think there's no file on you already with your picture, full name, date of birth, height, weight, even that mole on your fat lard ass, somewhere in a filing cabinet stored away in building disguised as an abandoned warehouse miles away from the nearest town or city, you're dead ****ing wrong. Us on the other hand, we know damn well already that there's most likely a drone or satellite up there somewhere with its laser on us 24/7/365 (and on you already, yes you Inor). How ****ing dumb do YOU have to be in order to not know that? We at least accepted that fact and decided to do what we can to strengthen the bond between us and the community.

My apologies for the history lesson I am about to give, I am a militiaman after all so it goes on without saying. Back in the 1770 decade before and during the Revolution, there were three types of Americans, the Loyalists who aided the British, the Patriots who fought them and the Redcoats, and those that didn't fight (you) and thought they could avoid the British and stay in hiding. Guess what, if they weren't eaten by the natives and carnivorous animals, the British got to them eventually and disarmed them first cause they were the easier targets (unlike a town where everyone banded together to fight). And I guaran-goddamn-tee you that with how easy it is to find someone these days, it'll be alot worse now than back then. Again, we can respect your mind-set on these matters, but it has proven (to us at least) that it doesn't work. You'll eventually be isolated, hunted down, and your numbers will decrease to a point where there's none of you any longer. I ask the tactician within yourself, if you were presented a target, how would you attack? You wouldn't attack the brunt of it - the strong side of it, no you'd divide and conquer that mother****er, and thus you go after the easier targets, the smaller sized targets, why? cause they would provide less resistance. And if you wanna go thinking "Oh, they won't get me that easily, I know what I'm doing!" another news flash, so do they, if not better! You think you know how to evade trackers, guess what, so did the guys they've gotten before you. There's always someone out there better than you at something and with how much financing the government has, what's stopping them from saying no? Why do you think the saying goes "UNITED WE STAND! DIVIDED WE FALL!" I find that saying as cheesy, lame, and annoying as the next guy, but it's the truth. So forgive me, I actually thought you were more intelligent than that, I was obviously wrong.
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i agree with the above statement, I'm not impressed with inors use of the words "****en dumb", but he dose have a point!!

your reinforcing the stereotypes on all related topics, from preppers, conspiracy theorists, and militias....

your making many noob mistakes, my first response to this post was my alarm bell, and after following this post, there is no way in hell I would recommend your militia to ANYONE....except to people trying to start one, with a list of what NOT to do

I'm calling a spade a spade here, it sounds like a noob organization, and therefore reeks of desperation...

good luck, but you have now made it harder for other legitimate people/organizations to attempt to recruit/advertise their group, even to talk about it and as here for advice
That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. My only problem is that I'm curious as to what it is exactly that you (or in many other's case) find so offensive about our site? As for desperation? no, merely wishing to broaden our network and get to know people more. Now if you're upset that I've lobbed all of us together under one umbrella term or so, then I didn't, I merely thought that there might be some like-minded people (which I am still intent to find on here), my only mistake was assuming that this was a forum full of mature people (like you perhaps and [sadly] Inor once upon a time) who wouldn't jump to conclusions and down my throat spouting so much crap at me. There is a rule of thumb on these matters, a simple procedure that everyone knows (or should know), it's called "if you don't like what I'm saying, then don't read it or continue reading it" and leave it alone. Again as I've said, I'm simply here to connect with those of similar ideology, not kick the hornets nest.
 

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That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. My only problem is that I'm curious as to what it is exactly that you (or in many other's case) find so offensive about our site? As for desperation? no, merely wishing to broaden our network and get to know people more. Now if you're upset that I've lobbed all of us together under one umbrella term or so, then I didn't, I merely thought that there might be some like-minded people (which I am still intent to find on here), my only mistake was assuming that this was a forum full of mature people (like you perhaps and [sadly] Inor once upon a time) who wouldn't jump to conclusions and down my throat spouting so much crap at me. There is a rule of thumb on these matters, a simple procedure that everyone knows (or should know), it's called "if you don't like what I'm saying, then don't read it or continue reading it" and leave it alone. Again as I've said, I'm simply here to connect with those of similar ideology, not kick the hornets nest.
the only thing that has upset me... is nothing

but a recap
you come onto a preppers site
preppers are stereotypically paranoid

you advertise on a low cost server (your web site) this is typical of TEENAGERS might as well be hosted on geocities

and asking for people here to look onto your militia

did I forget to mention preppers are paranoid

how about this for some constructive advice

1. remember preppers are paranoid!!!
2. let people get to know you before advertising your in a non government militia
3. recruit people through a combination of
3a you got to know them
3b you feel like they will be a good fit
3c through the private message function
3d SLOWLY

4 it's not the 18th century, but if you feel like you need to push more people into your militia, advertise through main stream media... not here

your arse has been plenty chewed, this post clearly rubbed inor and others the wrong way

you want to see the maturity of this site, post other topics, get to know the members more
 
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thank you for the invite, I think it was groucho marx that said I wouldn't be part of no organization that would have somebody like me as a member :)

mayhaps this feller don't have forum cooth, not a crime, and militias are not a crime. its the slant of different groups that could get dicey. not all have a distasteful slant.
I would look into an evac group for entertainment purposes only.

DO look up the meetup.com site for survival groups and stuff they are always having gatherings and teachings like drinking water/ grey water/ fire starting/ survival trapping/canning/ meat preservation/ basic firearms training going into the local mountains learning the plants and trees and what to do with which. lots of great info to hand to a group. I do like that ya'll schedule to good things for the community.
 

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i figured it was about time i showed up to give my two cents. after reading the whole tread i obviously have to back my XO in that he was only trying to pose a simple question, but out of everyone here pheniox17's point seems the most valid... we have just shown up on your forum, so in a way we are guests at this point. so perhaps it is about time we all take a step back and not act like trolls to the flamewar, i know the actual term is "like a moth to the flame" but on the internet my wording seems more appropriate. so with that said lets all take a step back and try to remain cordial.
 

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i have advised my XO in doing just that
Like the XO in our WH, your XO seems to be of the same following and it seems to me you are following a looser and you seem unable to get to the point of questioning his leadership, so that puts you in the same boat. Right or wrong, just follow orders right. Then come on a forum of people that are doing just what you don't, we question people and their motives and it seems your group leaves something to be desired. Now that your first attempt to deceive people here hasn't worked you will try the back door approach. Looks like you are using the typical politicians way to fool the people. Or could it be more of my BS as your fearless leader claims? Enjoy your stay on the prepper forums.
 

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Like the XO in our WH, your XO seems to be of the same following and it seems to me you are following a looser and you seem unable to get to the point of questioning his leadership, so that puts you in the same boat. Right or wrong, just follow orders right. Then come on a forum of people that are doing just what you don't, we question people and their motives and it seems your group leaves something to be desired. Now that your first attempt to deceive people here hasn't worked you will try the back door approach. Looks like you are using the typical politicians way to fool the people. Or could it be more of my BS as your fearless leader claims? Enjoy your stay on the prepper forums.
though i can respect your opinion, it is just that "your opinion"

i see no reason for me to get involved in a back and forth of "trolling" with you. like i have said the actions of my XO were genuine, but not appropriate on this forum at this time. however you seek to question and that is a admirable quality, though it can be done in a more respectful tone.

so i pose to you this simple answer... if you have a question on our organization or myself as the CO please ask and i will answer to the best of my ability so long as it is appropriate and in a respectful fashion.

side note: i noticed the Benghazi statement as your signature. isn't it kinda sad how so many have already forgotten about it and the fact that if the demo's have there way Hilary just might be sitting in the white house in a few years. people tend to forget their past so easily.

anyway good day and fair tidings to you
 

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Like the XO in our WH, your XO seems to be of the same following and it seems to me you are following a looser and you seem unable to get to the point of questioning his leadership, so that puts you in the same boat. Right or wrong, just follow orders right. Then come on a forum of people that are doing just what you don't, we question people and their motives and it seems your group leaves something to be desired. Now that your first attempt to deceive people here hasn't worked you will try the back door approach. Looks like you are using the typical politicians way to fool the people. Or could it be more of my BS as your fearless leader claims? Enjoy your stay on the prepper forums.
name calling is getting a little old now don't you think???

there are at least 2 members active here in this militia, in rl these guys could be the type you would gladly have a beer with, but through their organization come across childish...

they made a massive mistake... they paid for it dearly, it's time to either give them a brake, or ask questions about their malita... as these guys seem extremely noobish, so it's just getting established... so it opens the party to a barrage of questions
 

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name calling is getting a little old now don't you think???

there are at least 2 members active here in this militia, in rl these guys could be the type you would gladly have a beer with, but through their organization come across childish...

they made a massive mistake... they paid for it dearly, it's time to either give them a brake, or ask questions about their malita... as these guys seem extremely noobish, so it's just getting established... so it opens the party to a barrage of questions
Seems we dis agree on this issue. You are free to discuss with them in any manor you please. IMO, any discuss at this point would just be he said I said. I'm not here to change their minds and I don't believe they can say much to change mine at this time. I expressed my opinion. If you don't like what I say/said so be it. Your calling me out does nothing on there behalf and just puts you in a bad light in my view. I'm not here to debate my opinions/views. Take them as you will.
 

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Seems we dis agree on this issue. You are free to discuss with them in any manor you please. IMO, any discuss at this point would just be he said I said. I'm not here to change their minds and I don't believe they can say much to change mine at this time. I expressed my opinion. If you don't like what I say/said so be it. Your calling me out does nothing on there behalf and just puts you in a bad light in my view. I'm not here to debate my opinions/views. Take them as you will.
I'm calling you out on your name calling!! i should have been a little more direct

your opinion is valid, and your view is respected, your name calling is not

and me put in a bad light, you really don't want to go there bro, I'm one of many that will NOT be a sheep to fit in, and try very hard not to go down to low level name calling, I called inor out on name calling I'm doing the same to you... the rest of my statement event tho directed at you was also kept general... and my opinion of the current situation,
if you can't respect my opinion, why should I respect yours

I do apologize for my rant, but childish name calling boils my blood...
 

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Lots of bacon breaks needed this evening.
indeed...

@pheniox17 truthfully i don't see how we made a massive mistake "nothing life threatening at least" all this is, is a verbal back and forth between people. ill admit things were not done properly to begin with and i hope to rectify that in the coming weeks to years. i would respectfully ask that our organization not be referred to as noobish as i feel it demeans the intent of our group as well as the life experience of each member. also i can completely agree with you that name calling is kind of idiotic as most of us will never meet each other in real life and some attempt at ruffling feathers seems childish, but sadly many do tend to suffer from keyboard warrior syndrome or as i like to call it KBWS.

as ive said if you guys have any question please ask and i will be happy to give you a answer.
 

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a mistake in.trying to.advertise your group

the reference to.noobish is me just calling a spade a spade (with the internet reference, it fits) but have said my peace on it


maybe (a suggestion) as your getting to know the members here in other posts, ditch the turm militia and adopt the turn club (as effectively that's what your trying to.be) maybe after some time most members will worm up to the idea... (ditch godaddy, get a real .com and use it as a signature, this will be more effective advertising than anything else, I recently found a prepper page through a signature, that was only looked at because of the quality he delivered)

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How am I giving preppers/survivalists a bad rep? Really, do explain, please, cause last I checked, we're not casting a spotlight on you or anyone else other than us. Now if something happens to us, don't worry, we're not gonna say anything to them about you...oh wait, I forgot...WE ****ING CAN'T CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO YOU GUYS ARE!!! So don't worry, you're secret identity is still safe...to US at least, however, I don't think the government can say the same. I go again with what I've been trying to say, if you think there's no file on you already with your picture, full name, date of birth, height, weight, even that mole on your fat lard ass, somewhere in a filing cabinet stored away in building disguised as an abandoned warehouse miles away from the nearest town or city, you're dead ****ing wrong. Us on the other hand, we know damn well already that there's most likely a drone or satellite up there somewhere with its laser on us 24/7/365 (and on you already, yes you Inor). How ****ing dumb do YOU have to be in order to not know that? We at least accepted that fact and decided to do what we can to strengthen the bond between us and the community.

My apologies for the history lesson I am about to give, I am a militiaman after all so it goes on without saying. Back in the 1770 decade before and during the Revolution, there were three types of Americans, the Loyalists who aided the British, the Patriots who fought them and the Redcoats, and those that didn't fight (you) and thought they could avoid the British and stay in hiding. Guess what, if they weren't eaten by the natives and carnivorous animals, the British got to them eventually and disarmed them first cause they were the easier targets (unlike a town where everyone banded together to fight). And I guaran-goddamn-tee you that with how easy it is to find someone these days, it'll be alot worse now than back then. Again, we can respect your mind-set on these matters, but it has proven (to us at least) that it doesn't work. You'll eventually be isolated, hunted down, and your numbers will decrease to a point where there's none of you any longer. I ask the tactician within yourself, if you were presented a target, how would you attack? You wouldn't attack the brunt of it - the strong side of it, no you'd divide and conquer that mother****er, and thus you go after the easier targets, the smaller sized targets, why? cause they would provide less resistance. And if you wanna go thinking "Oh, they won't get me that easily, I know what I'm doing!" another news flash, so do they, if not better! You think you know how to evade trackers, guess what, so did the guys they've gotten before you. There's always someone out there better than you at something and with how much financing the government has, what's stopping them from saying no? Why do you think the saying goes "UNITED WE STAND! DIVIDED WE FALL!" I find that saying as cheesy, lame, and annoying as the next guy, but it's the truth. So forgive me, I actually thought you were more intelligent than that, I was obviously wrong.
If you look back at my posts on this subject, you will notice that I never said anything, in favor or against, you forming a militia. My beef is with your advertising of it. Going back to your third sentence of this post:

Now if something happens to us, don't worry, we're not gonna say anything to them about you...oh wait, I forgot...WE ****ING CAN'T CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO YOU GUYS ARE!!!
If you do not know who we are, why are you inviting us to even know about, let alone be part of your group? Moving on...

How are you giving preppers a bad rep? Oh, I don't know, maybe being a careless idiot. How about by promoting the stereotype that we are just a bunch of backwoods know-nothing hillbillies? You seem to treat this as a game with all of your "XO" and "CO" bullshit. I assure you, it is not a game with most of us.

I am not a militia guy; I have other ideas. But if you insist on doing the militia thing AND advertising yourselves on the internet, maybe you should consider a couple other options for how to go about that:

1 - Do not use ANY name server. (GoDaddy.com? Really?) House your website by IP address only, and then only on servers that you do not own, rent or have any documented control over, etc.

2 - Change the IP address of your server at least weekly, if not daily.

Anybody that is not smart enough to find you is probably not somebody that you want anyway,

Going onto you last paragraph, do you really equate yourselves with the Patriots of 1770? They had a strategy figured out for 20 years into the future before they ever fired the first shot. You cannot even manage tactics for putting up a website that is secure and private. Really? Long term strategy appears to be well beyond your capabilities. What is your plan? Do you intend to stand out on Concord green and shoot federal workers? I will put a bullet through your skull myself if that is your goal.
 
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