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Alternative cooking methods... Slow cooking in a Thermos

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In a SHTF scenario, some of the things one wants to conserve is water & fuel. A couple of decades ago I was given the "As Seen on TV Pasta cooker'. This was a see through plastic thermos that one poured boiling water into, then add pasta, and 10-15 minutes later, voila, cooked pasta.

Looking at this new wonder a light bulb idea sparked in my head" what if I used a much more insulated Thermos and tried cooking in it? What could I make?

Sure enough, over the years, now and then a YouTube video popped up with this same idea of mine. Most were Novice home Chefs and DIY project streamers. Almost all neglected to test the temperature of the food after cooking to see if it was safe to eat and not in the Food Danger zone 40°F-135°F. In fact, just last night I saw a video of someone that did use a meat thermometer for a pork soup he cooked using the Thermos method, coming out at just under 143 degrees F ( 2+ degrees lower then the suggested 145°F for Pork.

So, how does one cook in a Thermos method safely?

Step one: Finding the right type of thermos. This turned out to be a trial-and-error procedure. Fact is the thermos used was the key to success. Thermoses' have a rating how long food will remain hot in their food containers. The longer the duration equates to a lower loss of temperature per hour. A four hour rating one could lose up to 15° F -20° F per hour if not more. So after 6 hours any meat or seafood cooked in this thermos would no longer be safe to eat.

In the end, out of all the Brand name Insulated Food Containers I tested, only Stanley 1913 came out ahead. Testing it, I noticed that even after 24 hour period, I still had the ability to have a lukewarm cup of Joe. I knew right then and there that this was the Brand of choice for this experiment.

Now you have the Thermos, what is the next thing you need to do?

Since there is no fuel source being used to maintain the temperature within the thermos, as a Sous Vide accomplishes, the next thing you need to do is calculate the temperature loss of your thermos. The reason why this is important is because when you are preparing your meal on the stovetop to bring it to a boil so that you can pour it into the Food Jar, your Beginning temperature reading is going to be ~212-215° F. Knowing the rate of heat loss allows you to multiply that amount to find out the temperature your food will be for each hour of cooking.

Last thing to do.

Now that you know the amount of degree in temperature lost per hour, you need to now know what the required cooking temperature the protein needs to reach to be "Fully Cooked" and killing all bacteria. Now some foods one ma be able to slow cook for the full duration of 6 hours, while others like chicken which requires the highest internal meat temperature for proteins, you will have only 4-5 hours of cooking in this method prior to the internal temperature reaching 185°F.

Now that is just slow cooking a meal. Thermos cooking can also be used for pasta, rice, couscous, quinoa, and other grains and legumes. Pasta for example can be al Dante in 10 minutes, or softer at 15 minutes. Quinoa on the other hand can take between 30 minutes to 45 minutes to cook.


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A four hour rating one could lose up to 15° F -20° F per hour if not more. So after 6 hours any meat or seafood cooked in this thermos would no longer be safe to eat.
This is 100% wrong!

Once the food is cooked, it does NOT become uncooked just because it cools down.

When you put food on your plate, it cools down. Does that mean it is no longer safe.

If the temp NEVER reaches the recommend temp for cooking a specific meat, then you could have an issue.
This is 100% wrong!

Once the food is cooked, it does NOT become uncooked just because it cools down.

When you put food on your plate, it cools down. Does that mean it is no longer safe.

If the temp NEVER reaches the recommend temp for cooking a specific meat, then you could have an issue.
Since you did not quote specifically what you thought was a 100% wrong, the only thing I can think of is that you misunderstood something I intended to express.

Once protein is cooked to the temperature required, it cannot go below the safe zone of under 140° for over 2 hours. This is text book, not a myth. (there are a few exceptions like when there is a crap load of salt involved)

I was stating that having a subpar cooking thermos jar where temperature only remains 'hot' for up to 4 hours would not suffice for a 6 hour slow cooker method.

You are correct that once the food is cooked to the proper temperature for that protein, the protein will not 'un-cook" but having it under 140° for over 2 hours can allow for harmful bacteria to form. tainting the food. Now it is true that some people have built up a kind of tolerance to eating foods with some contamination, as a whole, for the vast majority, this holds true. I have also confirmed this again with my stepmother who is a former Health Inspector and Nutritionist.

This is why places like STANLEY 1913 & Thermos Brands state that their food jars are Not intended for seafood or proteins with regard to the estimated time that it would keep the food hot. I know this may sound hypocritical considering I am suggesting using them for a slow cooker, but some of their food jars have like a 18 hour+ rating, which would not be safe to eat if it had meat or fish after being in jar for 18 hours.
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