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I spend a lot of time thinking how I would handle this situation.

-There has been a catastrophic event - Solar EMP, Nuclear, Biological, Meteor, or War. No power, no heat, and water. Walmart is wiped out.

-People are looking for food and water. You get a knock at your front door. Do you answer? (If you don't, they will assume the place is abandoned, and will enter)

-You open the door - what do you say?

Hello?
What do you want?
How can I help you?
Piss off?
Do you just shoot?

You know what they want - what they need. They are hungry. Their family is starving. They seem nice. They beg and plead. Do you give out food and water. ( have you ever feed a stray cat? they don't leave )

-How would you humanly handle this situation?

Send them away?
Feed them?
Put them to work to earn their way?
Ignore them?
Bargain?
Kill them?

I try to do what I can to help my neighbors. In the Army, I was taught that God comes first, then family, and lastly work. But I must protect my family first. God gave me this family, and He put me in charge of them. I will protect my family in a manner that respects God. When I know they are safe, I will do what I can for my neighbors. But I will not allow myself to jeopardize what He has placed me in charge of. If I have extra food, water, and money I will give it. If my family is in danger, I will take.
 

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I think this is one of those situations that what people say they would do and what they actually would do is two different things. But the main thing is that this is the main way that a break in would occur. No one will show up with criminal written on his face.
 

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I know every situation presents a different outcome.

How do you mentally prepare, and physically stock up for "visitors" ? If it is winter time, you could have them cut fire wood in exchange for food. In the summer they could maintain the garden, your traps, or your water supply in exchange for supplies. ( But now they know what you have - where you have it - they don't need you - they can take what they want - and more).

Short leash. Keep it simple and productive. Cleaning game, chopping wood (all season), and hauling (mule work). Don't expose your strengths and always protect your weakness.

"It is much safer to be feared than loved because ...love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails."

― Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince - year 1513
 

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...You get a knock at your front door. Do you answer? (If you don't, they will assume the place is abandoned, and will enter)...
I never answer my door to anybody, never have, never will unless I know exactly who they are and if I want them in.
Once my doorbell was ringing on and off for a full 15 minutes but I was on the computer and couldn't be bothered to answer, why should I? It eventually stopped and they went away.
It turned out it was my sister and niece making a surprise visit but I don't care, they should have let me know in advance they were coming.
As for bad guys possibly busting in if you don't answer, no problem, just shoot the motherf*ckers dead, that's what guns are for aren't they, or have you all gone soft? ha ha..:)
 

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If I read the case you laid out right ,someone already screwed up . They would not get the close to the door.
Anyone coming near the property would be challenged a lot sooner than that. That is why we prepare.
Once any event causes SHTF mode to go into effect this area gets locked down.
If we can extend help to others we will, but it will take place well outside our living areas.
 

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They would been warned by the sign that clearly states:

"Invited? Welcome!
Uninvited? Start Running!"
 
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Good girl in this news item, but next time hide behind the settee then stand up when he comes in and give him the full clip into his chest and head BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG..:)

Okla. Girl, 12, Shoots Intruder During Home Burglary
"Kendra had taken shelter in a closet, clutching her mother's .40 caliber glock gun while she listened to the intruder make his way around her home.
Her fear intensified to sheer terror, when she saw the knob of the closet door beginning to turn.
At that point, that for the first time in her life, Kendra fired a gun.
Police said the bullet traveled straight through the closet door and struck 32-year-old Stacey Jones in the shoulder, scaring him out of the house"


Okla. Girl, 12, Shoots Intruder During Home Burglary - Yahoo! News
 

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Every ones home, situation, and location is differant, for me and my house hold, I have a maintainable perimiter, and the ability to monitor incoming trafic coming up the drive for close to a half mile, I do not normally, (special considerations make exceptions) intend for unwanted persons to come in close proximity with out being acknowledged. Once they are on the front poarch it is a differant story, One will have to make quick rational judgement on their intent.

I do not knormally intend to over react and begin firing randomly, know matter how bad the outling situation is, or is perceived to be.

A distressed 25 year old brunette woman with a thick ass and big titties will be treated differantly than a skevue wounded male weilding a weapon, making verbal demands.
 

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well this is my take on it, in a true catastrophic event and it gets to the point where people are going door to door to beg for food you should have a good enough perimeter where they should not even make it to the front door. If you are vulnerable enough for them to get the close I would think you have other things to worry about.
 

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A distressed 25 year old brunette woman with a thick ass and big titties will be treated differantly than a skevue wounded male weilding a weapon, making verbal demands.
As my wife says "men are so easily fooled." ;-)
 

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Originally Posted by alterego
A distressed 25 year old brunette woman with a thick ass and big titties will be treated differantly than a skevue wounded male weilding a weapon, making verbal demands.


As my wife says "men are so easily fooled." ;-)
Yeah, in "The Book of Eli" a gang uses one of their women members as bait at the side of the road calling out to passersby "Help me...please help me", and then the gang come out of hiding..

 

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Every ones home, situation, and location is differant, for me and my house hold, I have a maintainable perimiter, and the ability to monitor incoming trafic coming up the drive for close to a half mile, I do not normally, (special considerations make exceptions) intend for unwanted persons to come in close proximity with out being acknowledged. Once they are on the front poarch it is a differant story, One will have to make quick rational judgement on their intent.

I do not knormally intend to over react and begin firing randomly, know matter how bad the outling situation is, or is perceived to be.

A distressed 25 year old brunette woman with a thick ass and big titties will be treated differantly than a skevue wounded male weilding a weapon, making verbal demands.
Just be on the lookout for the Distressed Brunette's Weapon Wielding Male hiding off the side of the porch.While she has your undivided attention, the Alpha Male can have his way.

This has been the downfall of heterosexual males since the beginning of time and will continue until the end.
 

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..How do you mentally prepare, and physically stock up for "visitors" ?...
That's easy! If you NEED them AND can feed them, let them stick around-

"You need us, we need you"!


But if you don't need them or can't feed them them tell them "Sorry, our group can only just manage to feed itself and we can't take on anybody else, try the Walton's farm down the road".
If they refuse to go, shoot 'em and feed 'em to your hogs.
In a survival situation you sure as hell can't carry passengers or you'll starve!
 

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How many on here have said gold and silver aren't worth anything, but you find out during a horrible time you are wrong? An able bodied Marine arrives at your door. His wife and young child in tow, offering 3 ounces of silver and 12 hours of hard labor or guard duty just for some water and a meal? You know that "guy" down the street wants 10 pieces of silver for a case of 00 buck that would make you feel better and be worth a fortune with your extra shot guns. After a day, the Marine and his family prove trust worthy, helpful, and if you had an extra shotgun and some ammo he'd go back to where he hid an ounce of gold. You demand 7 more pieces of silver too and agree to feed them 3 more days. He agrees. The Marine and has family live in a tent in the back yard, now you don't have to worry about your rear flank. You are up an ounce of gold and 200 rounds of 00 buck, out an old shotgun and have an able bodied assistant to help you at most anytime.

Because you answered the knock at the door.
 

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If I read the case you laid out right ,someone already screwed up . They would not get the close to the door.
Anyone coming near the property would be challenged a lot sooner than that. That is why we prepare.
Once any event causes SHTF mode to go into effect this area gets locked down.
If we can extend help to others we will, but it will take place well outside our living areas.
^^^^^ THIS.

Smitty901 has the right answer from my perspective. Trust no one. Man is wolf to man.
 

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In a true SHTF situation and I don't know them, they ain't getting in and they ain't gettin' me stuff. If I know them and don't trust them they ain't gettin' in and ain't gettin' me stuff. I'll be arming one close friend(he is well preppared and capable) and his wife( for reasons I won't dicuss in public), and allying with a a local LEO and his family(Very well preppared and very capable), my daughter and her hubby(caspable)and my grandson are welcome as is the mother in law. Other than that it will be as needed situation. It depends on how fluid the situation is to what adjustments we'll make.
 

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Speaking of unwanted visitors, this guy in a Twilight Zone episode called 'The Shelter' broke the KEEP IT TO YOURSELF prepping rule and blabbed to his neighbours that he was a prepper and that he'd got a cellar-bunker. Bad call..

1- A happy neighbourhood birthday party, what could possibly go wrong?
2- Radio announcer- "Incoming enemy missiles. get in your shelters!"
3- "Lemme in, I'm your mate"......."F*ck off!"
4- "None of us have got a shelter, let's bust into his!"
5- Radio announcer-"False alarm"
6- "Get out of my house you motherf*ckers!"



 

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Hmm, I don't let strangers in, during good times. I have a fair amount of land around me, and a barking dog. No one would get too close. Would I throw some one a bag of beans and rice, probably. I'm not heartless, but I'm cynical. It would be best if they moved on. If it was a pandemic, they would not get anywhere near. You would be a fool to expose yourself.
 
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