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80% LOWER RECEIVERS

$90-$100 and reviews suggest they are pretty solid. Best part is you can have them shipped to your door with no FFL or paper work. They are just paper weights right now, but with an hour of milling, a lower parts kit and complete upper they'll work just fine.
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I have been working on some 80% AR15 receivers and I say receivers because I have screwed up a couple. I have a machinist friend of mine helping me out but it's wicked hard work. I found really nice kits from centerfiresystems.com and what I'm trying to build is a Vietnam era replica A1.
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Other than the obvious jig with the templates, do you need any special toolings to machine them?

I did find a couple places that sell trigger groups already assembled, so all you have to do is set them in and add a couple screws rather than dealing with assembling all of the spring and goofy other parts. I think if I can get it that far, the rest should be easy.
I don't have a jig or templates. The master machinist I'm working with insists on working from blueprints and using mill drill combination machine. I don't think I could do it myself nor with just a drill press. Please keep me posted on your results. When i complete one I will post pictures.
Got mine from here

Polymer80 | AR Polymer 80% LowersPolymer80 - AR Polymer 80% Lowers | Polymer80

Still in the safe, haven't had time to touch it yet. The do offer a guarantee if you mess it up, they will replace it. So I figured I would give them a try. Now they have video instructions too. I'm more of a visual kinda guy.
Are you using a jig and template?
Mine is polymer, not aluminum. I wonder how much harder it is to work or is it harder? I have never tried anything like this before so it will definitely be a learning experience.
What I mean by harder what type of bits will need to be used to machine polymer and be able to keep all work within spec (holes round and crisp and not oblong or rounded edges? The material is of course different from aluminum so will it melt or deform? I destroyed my first receiver because I got inpatient and broke a bit that in turn blew out my trigger well. It makes an interesting paper weight on my desk.
Wow that looks way easier than what I'm doing. I should buy one and give it to my friend for Christmas just to piss him off. I will include a coloring book with crayons. :)
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I ve looked at all the posts so whats the catch? is anyone aware of any laws that maybe broken / lics that may be needed for the manufacture of firearms just curious cause this looks super easy if the feds were going bonkers over the printed gun made on the plastic printer then where do they stand on this?
You can produce you own firearms as long as they are legal and they are not being produced with the intent to sell.

Here it is in ATF mumbo jumbo

Q: Is it legal to assemble a firearm from commercially available parts kits that can be purchased via internet or shotgun news?

For your information, per provisions of the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968, 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, an unlicensed individual may make a "firearm" as defined in the GCA for his own personal use, but not for sale or distribution.

The GCA, 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(3), defines the term "firearm" to include the following:

… (A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may be readily converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive: (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or silencer; or (D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.

In addition, the National Firearms Act (NFA), 26 U.S.C. § 5845(b), defines the term "machinegun" as:

… any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. This term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.

Finally, the GCA, 18 U.S.C. § 922(r), specifically states the following:

It shall be unlawful for any person to assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under the…[GCA]…Section 925(d)(3).as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes ….

Also, 27 C.F.R. § 478.39 states:

…

(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes ….
(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:
(1) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or (2) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Director under the provisions of [§478.151(formerly 178.151)]; or (3) The repair of any rifle or shotgun which had been imported into or assembled in the United States prior to November 30, 1990, or the replacement of any part of such firearm.
(c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts [tabulated below] are:
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings, or castings.
(2) Barrels.
(3) Barrel extensions.
(4) Mounting blocks (trunnions).
(5) Muzzle attachments.
(6) Bolts.
(7) Bolt carriers.
(8) Operating rods.
(9) Gas pistons.
(10) Trigger housings.
(11) Triggers.
(12) Hammers.
(13) Sears.
(14) Disconnectors.
(15) Buttstocks.
(16) Pistol grips.
(17) Forearms, handguards.
(18) Magazine bodies.
(19) Followers.
(20) Floor plates.

…

As a result of a 1989 study by the U.S. Treasury Department regarding the importability of certain firearms, an import ban was placed on military-style firearms. This ban included not only military-type firearms, but also extended to firearms with certain features that were considered to be "nonsporting."

Among such nonsporting features were the ability to accept a detachable magazine; folding/telescoping stocks; separate pistol grips; and the ability to accept a bayonet, flash suppressors, bipods, grenade launchers, and night sights.

Please note that the foreign parts kits that are sold through commercial means are usually cut up machineguns, such as Russian AK-47 types, British Sten types, etc. Generally, an acceptable semiautomatic copy of a machinegun is one that has been significantly redesigned. The receiver must be incapable of accepting the original fire-control components that are designed to permit full automatic fire. The method of operation should employ a closed-bolt firing design that incorporates an inertia-type firing pin within the bolt assembly.

Further, an acceptably redesigned semiautomatic copy of nonsporting firearm must be limited to using less than 10 of the imported parts listed in 27 CFR § 478.39(c). Otherwise, it is considered to be assembled into a nonsporting configuration per the provisions of 18 U.S.C. 925(d)(3) and is thus a violation of § 922(r).

Individuals manufacturing sporting-type firearms for their own use need not hold Federal Firearms Licenses (FFLs). However, we suggest that the manufacturer at least identify the firearm with a serial number as a safeguard in the event that the firearm is lost or stolen. Also, the firearm should be identified as required in 27 CFR 478.92 if it is sold or otherwise lawfully transferred in the future.
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