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The first one was posted ??? last week or so

The second was ... OK, all the same valid points.

It all goes on deaf ears as the anti propagandists spew & spin the same filth.
Hoping the deceit will grasp one more to their twisted ways of reasoning.
Point is let them live as they wish, but let me alone to my ideals and free way of life.

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Yeah they use guns instead of chairs and lethal injection in china. US has killed a lot of innocent people too what is your point? Much stricter gun control in China than the us. The crime rate and imprisonment rate and capital punishment rates per capita are also way lower than the US.

US is killing way more people per capita and imprisoning way more people per capita.

Any american criticizing the Chinese justice system is a hypocrit if they arn't more critical of the US justice system.

China has less gun ownership than the US.

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Who needs gun control or GOVERNMENT published rates of imprisonment and capital punishment, just look at the facts Will.

Joseph Kahn and Jim Yardley of the New York Times filed a report on August 26, 2007 about China's pollution problem: "Environmental degradation is now so severe, with such stark domestic and international repercussions, that pollution poses not only a major long-term burden on the Chinese public but also an acute political challenge to the ruling Communist Party." Main points from the report included

According to the Chinese Ministry of Health, industrial pollution has made cancer China's leading cause of death.
Every year, ambient air pollution alone killed hundreds of thousands of citizens.
500 million people in China are without safe and clean drinking water.
Only 1% of the country's 560 million city dwellers breathe air considered safe by the European Union, because all the China's major cities are constantly covered in a "toxic gray shroud". Before and during the 2008 Summer Olympics, Beijing was "frantically searching for a magic formula, a meteorological deus ex machina, to clear its skies for the 2008 Olympics."
Lead poisoning or other types of local pollution continue to kill many Chinese children.
A large section of the ocean is without marine life because of massive algal boom caused by the high nutrients in the water.
The pollution has spread internationally: sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides fall as acid rain on Seoul, South Korea, and Tokyo; and according to the Journal of Geophysical Research, the pollution even reaches Los Angeles in the USA.
The Chinese Academy of Environmental Planning in 2003 had an internal and unpublished report which estimated that 300,000 people die each year from ambient air pollution, mostly of heart disease and lung cancer.
Chinese environmental experts in 2005 issued another report, estimating that annual premature deaths attributable to outdoor air pollution were likely to reach 380,000 in 2010 and 550,000 in 2020.
A 2007 World Bank report concluded "...outdoor air pollution was already causing 350,000 to 400,000 premature deaths a year. Indoor pollution contributed to the deaths of an additional 300,000 people, while 60,000 died from diarrhea, bladder and stomach cancer and other diseases that can be caused by water-borne pollution." World Bank officials said "China's environmental agency insisted that the health statistics be removed from the published version of the report, citing the possible impact on 'social stability'".

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They claim is about 10,000 people are killed each year in America with guns. That is horrible. This number has increased and decreased over time. The best thing to reduce it is a good economy. If this number were consistent over 220 years of our "empire" it would be 2.2 million people but of course it was lower way back when our population was lower too. So lets say 2 milion and we all know tht is still high. In that same period of time tyrants killed more than 300 million. This is pretty well documented. Sadly this truth is ignored simply with the guise "oh that can't happen here." I'm betting some of those 300 million thought the same thing.
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