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5 worst states to be in during a major catastrophic disaster

This is a discussion on 5 worst states to be in during a major catastrophic disaster within the Urban and Rural Survival forums, part of the Survivalist, Prepper, Bushcrafter, Forest Rangers category; I do not agree in this list but it is good insight to help you think about your short/Long term planning. Some of you are ...

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    5 worst states to be in during a major catastrophic disaster

    I do not agree in this list but it is good insight to help you think about your short/Long term planning. Some of you are born lucky and live in a place that is abundant and ideal for the prepper and homesteader while others like me had jobs that moved every 3 years or so.

    I call Colorado home now on a place and have a couple acres. About 9 years ago I knew I had to move. With the influx of people, politics and limited resources the wife and I did our vacations out in the country visiting different states.

    I will be retiring here in a couple of years from my civi job and purchased some land in NW Arkansas a few miles east of Beaver Lake. Although no area is the perfect place this area was affordable, had resources and was not heavily populated.

    I also liked the area just north of Beaumont Texas....it was a hard decision.

    Here are the 5 States this gentlemen talks about but in the end it comes down to income, options, age, medical needs and family:

    There are many different disasters that would be catastrophic to the United States. An EMP attack that causes the power grid to collapse, a huge natural disaster, or a complete economic collapse far worse than the Great Depression are just three such disasters that would take years to recover from.


    What many people fail to realize, however, is that it wonít be the disaster itself that kills the most people. While it is true that the EMP strike would cause planes to fall out of the sky and cars to crash into one another, and while itís also true that a natural disaster could claim thousands of lives instantly, itís what happens after an apocalyptic disaster that would cause most of the deaths.

    With communications, food, water, and other necessities all cut off instantly, once ordinary people will do desperate things in order to survive. Hunger and starvation, dehydration and lack of water, and people killing one another savagely for basic necessities are what would claim the most lives.

    Nowhere in the United States is going to be truly safe or immune from a disaster on a grand scale. However, some states will certainly be less safe than others, and weíre going to discuss what those states are and why they are more unsafe than others.

    Here are the top five worst American states to be in during a collapse, presented in alphabetical order:

    1. Alaska

    Hereís a state that youíre probably surprised to see on this list, especially when you consider Alaska (known as the Last Frontier) is supposed to be a safe haven for survivalists. Thereís no denying that Alaska has many factors that would initially make it seem like a good place to be in during a disaster.

    For one thing, itís sparsely populated and its few urban areas are not anywhere near as populous as cities like New York or Los Angeles. It also has an abundance of natural resources such as timber and wild game.


    But at the same time, Alaska has many negatives. For one thing, itís very earthquake prone due to the fact that itís situated along the West Coast. Itís also cut off from the lower 48 states, so imports of basic supplies and necessities will come to a screeching halt in the midst of disaster with no hope of resupply (gasoline and oil are arguably the biggest of these).

    Thereís no denying that Alaska is one of the most beautiful places in the entire world. But at the same time, it has serious cons that should make you seriously reconsider it as a bug out location.

    2. California

    You might as well put the whole West Coast under this one, which is incredibly vulnerable to earthquakes and is very densely populated. Those densely populated cities like San Francisco, San Diego, or Los Angeles are not just bad places to be in an earthquake. They are also prime EMP or nuclear targets for our enemies.

    Furthermore, Californiaís economy is incredibly fragile with very high debt. Itís arguably the most prone to an economic collapse over any other state. This is on top of the very high cost of living, taxes, and regulations in the state as well.

    All in all, the West Coast is definitely not somewhere you want to be during a disaster, but California will be even more dangerous than Washington and Oregon.

    3. Florida

    You can probably already guess one reason why Florida is on this list: hurricanes. Itís no secret that Florida is very prone to hurricanes, but even that hasnít stopped retirees from flocking to the Sunshine State as a warm tropical haven.


    Sure, Florida is a very attractive state, but itís still far too overburdened with negative factors to be considered a good state to be in during a disaster. On the contrary, itís one of the worst. Miami is a very large city and could be a prime target of a nuclear or EMP attack. The population in Florida is also very dense (itís surpassed New York) and the crime rate is high.

    In addition, most of Florida is already under sea level, which is dangerous should ocean temperatures ever seriously rise. Overall, you would be advised to not consider Florida as a bug out retreat.

    4. Hawaii

    Hawaii is on this list for many of the same reasons that Alaska is: itís cut off from the rest of the United States and therefore will also be cut off from shipping and imports during a disaster. As an added con, Hawaii already has less overall resources than Alaska, with less of a chance to be successful at agriculture due to the generally poor soil.

    Hawaii is also a goldmine of military bases that will be prime targets in the event of a global war. Unless you can get out beforehand on a ship or an airplane, youíre essentially stranded in an archipelago out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean with no serious way of getting out.

    If Hawaii serves one purpose, itís a vacation place to make happy memories. But itís certainly not a place to go to outlast a disaster.


    5. New York

    Last but not least, we come to New York. The East and West Coasts are both highly and densely populated, and the city of New York itself is going to be a prime target for our enemies.

    New York also shares many cons with California: the high cost of living, high taxes and regulations, a high crime rate, strict firearms laws, heavy traffic, and so on.

    Granted, not all of New York is so bad. Much of the northern part of the state is very rural and teeming with natural resources. Still, youíre in very close proximity to the city, and refugees will undoubtedly be flooding north towards Canada, so youíre still not that safe anyway.

    Conclusion

    Alaska, California, Florida, Hawaii, and New York will be the five least safe states to be in during a major nationwide disaster. As an alternative, you would be wise to check out the states in the Great Plains or the Rocky Mountains instead. While those areas certainly have their cons as well (remember that no state is truly safe), they are still much safer than the five states weíve just gone over.
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    I would without a second thought add Michigan and Illinois to that list, . . . maybe bumping Alaska and Hawaii off, . . . most can't / won't go there anyway for SHTF.

    Because of the proximity to Minneapolis and Chicago, . . . I have personally checked Wisconsin off my list as well. It will be flooded by hood rats within days of SHTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwight55 View Post
    I would without a second thought add Michigan and Illinois to that list, . . . maybe bumping Alaska and Hawaii off, . . . most can't / won't go there anyway for SHTF.

    Because of the proximity to Minneapolis and Chicago, . . . I have personally checked Wisconsin off my list as well. It will be flooded by hood rats within days of SHTF.

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    Shame really because Wisconsin has good resources but I agree. I was stationed at FT Sheridan north of Chicago and spent most of my off time in Wisconsin. This is when I learned that old men do not play around when it comes to ice fishing and real estate. Made the mistake of being in a local old-timers spot and all hell broke loose.

    Lucky for me I had some beer and that was accepted for a apology and the old man turned out to be cool.
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    Midwest towards mountainz are safe, in my opinion.
    In reality, most people dont even know anything past their neiguborhood as most dont leave the house.
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    the Laural Highlands are not the most remote spot, but they are rural.
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    I think the location of maximum bend-over-ness depends on the type of disaster:

    1. If there is a big Pacific tsunami, California, Oregon, and Washington would be screwed.
    2. Similarly for east coastal areas for any Atlantic tsunami.
    3. A Korean EMP attack would put Kansas at ground zero.
    4. An economic meltdown shifts the worst-place-to-be into 100 major urban centers.
    5. A coronal mass ejection and subsequent grid failure makes EVERY state a death zone.

    I'm sure you can think of more examples.

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    In addition, most of Florida is already under sea level, which is dangerous should ocean temperatures ever seriously rise. Overall, you would be advised to not consider Florida as a bug out retreat.
    Uh, no. It is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denton View Post
    Uh, no. It is not.
    I also had a few questions about the authors knowledge but it does plant a seed to think and research.
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    WA is out because all the Californians are invading and they'll turn into blood sucking zombies running around chanting, "Bernie, save us!". I don't think eastern WA has much to worry about tsunami wise though, we have the mountains between us.

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    What do you think about Southern Vermont? It's so pretty. I like. I know it's chalk full of liberals but there's lots of space and I'd like a little slice of land up there in the mountains for our bug out location when the poop hits.
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