This is a discussion on Baofeng banned but still for sale online, get them while you can within the Survival Gear Reviews and Questions forums, part of the Survival Gear Reviews, Questions, Sell, Swap category; Originally Posted by pakrat ........With a cheap UV-5R and $10 worth of PVC pipe and wire, a hunter rig can be made that will easily ...
I'm lost. So its ILLEGAL to broadcast on a HAM, if you don't have a license? But you can listen?
These boefangs are ready to talk and listen, you just don't push the button?
These are scanners? So you could disrupt critical services like Fire Dept or police by "never letting off the talk button"?
I will do more research.
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Our group is heavily invested in the Baofengs. Why? Primarily because they communicate with the lower non-HAM GMRS radios. Nobody monitors those frequencies in the normal world.
But let's jump forward to a world filled with chaos. The people that monitor (Fox Hunt) the 2 meter radios (Baofengs) are older HAMS. I don't see them running out into the scary outdoors to snoop on two meter conversations in simplex (radio to radio, about 6 miles apart) to locate you. Do you think they will do this to report you to FCC for operating without a license? I don't think so.
By using the Baofeng in a non-repeater frequency sparingly, who on earth will be listening to that frequency? And if you say hungry HAMS with the equipment and training then I suggest you do the math.
I believe that around 2% of the population have HAM licenses. I suggest only half of them are trained and equipped to Fox Hunt. So now we are dealing with 1% of the county population.
Now consider that 1% or 2% of the population are Preppers. Lets use 2% here. That means that only .0004% (.02 X .02) of your county's population can locate you.
My county population is 175,000. That yields 70 people that have to figure out what 2 Meter frequency we are on when not using the GMRS frequencies that only cover about 2 miles. (.0004 X 175,000)
Now estimate what percent of those persons will come raid you not knowing your strength?
Therefore, our plan is to use the Baofengs to use code words on one particular GMRS channel for normal security chatter. When threatened by intruders, we will switch to an obscure 2 Meter HAM frequency that will increase our range from 2 miles to 6 miles, the only time we expose our signal to Fox Hunters that might pick us up. Don't forget that it takes two Fox Hunters working together to triangulate on a signal location.
So again, you do the math on giving away your location. Don't hesitate to purchase the Baofengs.
P. S. Did I point out that the GMRS radios have difficulty sending a signal from outside to inside a building? Don't screw around folks - get Baofengs. The UV-5R is only $24 each.
Last edited by jimcosta; 11-01-2019 at 09:36 AM.
Slightly off topic, but what would y'all recommend as a replacement for the rubber duck antenna replacement on a UV 5R? Asking for a friend.
Deebo: The FCC says in an emergency a license is NOT required. Practice with the Baofeng using the GMRS stations (no license or test required unless you feel guilty and mail in a fee). Then in chaos use the HAM 2 Meter frequencies that you will have to program in yourself. If you are interested email me and I will mail you programming details. [email protected]
You should program just a few frequencies for your personal use. Therefore, you need not be concerned about screwing up the entire world. However, if you want you can key in the police, fire or other departments so you can only listen to them but not talk on their frequencies.
Last edited by jimcosta; 11-01-2019 at 09:46 AM.
Small note for those using these radios for the GMRS frequencies...
The UV-5R, and a few other models offered, can transmit with up to 5w of power, which is considered illegal on a few of those frequencies that only allow up to 2, I think. It would be tough for anyone to really know you're violating this, but it's a point to be aware of.
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H. L. Mencken
I'd go with a full 1/4 wave antenna, about 15 inches long. Remember, you get what you pay for. $17 or more, each. Much better range!
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