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    I've been noticing in some of the recent threads here at the forum that a number of you guys are Christian but don't like organized religion. You don't go to church. Why?

    I want to encourage you to think twice about why, because we need strong churches now more than ever. Church attendance on Sundays is down across the board. I believe we're not far away from losing our religious freedoms. Churches that uphold traditional family values are now labeled "hate groups" SPLaw Center labels Brad Drucus (Pacific Justice Institute) a "hater" for saying things like, “Forcing boys and girls to share bathrooms, locker rooms and sleeping arrangements is not equality; it is insanity.” It won't be long before they come for the guys in the pulpit. Some may say, "Oh, they can't do that." But they will, give them a little more time to monkey with our rights. You watch them.

    Be bold. I don't believe Our Lord ever intended His Kingdom to be a "Jesus and Me only" institution. If Christ is going to be King, we need to build strong churches. Our forefathers understood that. We're not gonna take back our nation without strong churches and strong families.
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    Spot on @Annie . There is power in numbers. It is easy to defeat loners. Thing is democracy is the wrong venue. It’s mob rule, 50 percent plus one. We are supposed to be a Republic were each person has God given rights government or the mob can not take from us. Morality matters as you stated above. Without it we will devolve from a Republic to a Democracy where the State is supreme rather than God. It is happening now.

    It’s important for moral people to organize in great numbers to vote morally and engage politicians to legislate morally. Being in a Church, being that example to others, having others want to know Christ as you do is part of the solution for our nation and each of our salvations.
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    First off @Annie change the Title of the thread from "democracy" to "REPUBLIC".

    I get where you are coming from but for me, the problem with churches is the people. I have no use for most churches and will avoid them at most cost.

    Just yesterday I spoke with an elderly relative who lost his wife last week. He is catholic and will have a mass and a funeral for his departed wife. I will not attend a catholic church (or for the most part any funeral). I WILL spend some time with the person in fellowship if I want to. But go to most churches? Nope. Can't stand them.

    I shared my sorrow with him and told him I was unable to attend the funeral-mass and he replied "that's OK, I'll miss seeing you but there is no reason to feel sorry, she is not in pain and sitting next to Jesus". He truly believed that and I was touched by his faith.

    I agreed then he asked if me and Mrs Slippy would mind visiting next week, he then went on to tell me that he heard I bought a new box blade for my tractor and "boy, no reason to buy any more tractor implements, I got plenty I'll give ya"...he said. Matter of fact, when we visit next week, he told me I could have a pick of any of his tractor implements that I wanted. He said he's too old to use them and he wanted me to have them. He thanked me for the call.
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    One word....... HYPOCRISY! Hypocrisy from the preacher (or priest) up in the pulpit, from the church elders sitting down in the front rows, and from the rest of the pious drunks, wife beaters, and adulterers scattered throughout the rest of the congregation.

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    Thanks, Annie, for your OP, . . . definitely spot on.

    I've also engaged the "congregation" in a different manner, . . . and at least for now, it seems to be working.

    Our little 25 to 35 person church not only financially takes care of it's own, . . . it finances a DVD and Youtube ministry. Google up youtube dwight cimino, . . . and you will find over 100 of our services on there. We do a 3 camera shoot each Sunday, . . . and then doctor it down to a 55 minute or so message, . . .

    That message goes out to some on DVD mailed to their houses, . . . and some on youtube, . . .

    I'll never know all of who watches, . . . but it is another way to reach out.

    May God bless,
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    Annie, the issue I have is that I couldn't stand the hierarchy of Catholicism and my favorite pastor at the SDA church got "fired."

    Lots of my friends, and my doctor, go to a Catholic church which I hear is quite a good and faithful group. Right now it's a problem with 'wardrobe.' I only have two pairs of jeans (really) one is crappy, and the other is crappier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tourist View Post
    Annie, the issue I have is that I couldn't stand the hierarchy of Catholicism and my favorite pastor at the SDA church got "fired."

    Lots of my friends, and my doctor, go to a Catholic church which I hear is quite a good and faithful group. Right now it's a problem with 'wardrobe.' I only have two pairs of jeans (really) one is crappy, and the other is crappier.
    Wear the crappy pair. Go to church. God looks at the heart.

    There's this guy who goes to my church. I don't think he's taken a bath is heaven knows how long. But he's still one of us. God is the judge, not me, but I bet his soul is a lot cleaner with God than a lot of the guys who go around wearing $1000 dollar suits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tourist View Post
    Annie, the issue I have is that I couldn't stand the hierarchy of Catholicism and my favorite pastor at the SDA church got "fired."

    Lots of my friends, and my doctor, go to a Catholic church which I hear is quite a good and faithful group. Right now it's a problem with 'wardrobe.' I only have two pairs of jeans (really) one is crappy, and the other is crappier.
    Partner I wish you lived near our little church, . . . you would fit right in.

    Myself and my two elders are pretty much the only ones who even diddle with a suit, . . . and ties ???? , . . . I'm pretty much alone there.

    Jeans, golf shirts, tennis shoes, . . . ball caps, . . . and sweat shirts in the winter, . . . flannel shirts and blouses are a 75% norm, . . . and that is more or less our congregation.

    BUT, . . . we love the Lord, . . . worship together as I tell em, . . . "practicing for Heaven, . . . " because that is what we will do there, . . . together, . . .

    And I'm hoping whatever I wear there is made of blue jeans and flannel shirts.

    If the heart is right, . . . everything else is just fluff, . . . not substance, . . . only the heart and it's attitude are what matters. And all I can say about that is "Thank you, Jesus".

    May God bless,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippy View Post
    First off @Annie change the Title of the thread from "democracy" to "REPUBLIC".
    I tried, but it didn't work. Shrugs. Guess I need to go back to madorater school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camel923 View Post
    Spot on @Annie . There is power in numbers. It is easy to defeat loners. Thing is democracy is the wrong venue. It’s mob rule, 50 percent plus one. We are supposed to be a Republic were each person has God given rights government or the mob can not take from us. Morality matters as you stated above. Without it we will devolve from a Republic to a Democracy were the State is supreme rather than God. It is happening now. I

    t’s important for moral people to organize in great numbers tovote morally and engage politicians to legislate morally. Being in a Church, being that example to others, having others want to know Christ as you do is part of the solution for our nation and each of our salvations.
    Yeah, plus I believe we owe God worship. And there's something about where two or three are gathered together, there I am with them.
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