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This is a discussion on Options for lead within the Reloading forums, part of the HandGuns, Pistols and Revolvers, Long Rifles, Shotguns, SKS, AK, AR category; Originally Posted by PaulS That smelter was working with recycled lead. The production of new lead in the US is 406000 metric tons a year. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulS View Post
    That smelter was working with recycled lead. The production of new lead in the US is 406000 metric tons a year. All the bullet manufacturers use new lead in their production.
    I found the figure of 406000 metric tons a year and it was for the year 2009, I couldn't find figures on US lead production for any years after that perhaps you could supply a link.
    United States Lead Production by Year (Metric tons, lead content)
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    Thiis link seems to go up to 2013.
    http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pu...-2014-lead.pdf

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    Very informative and apparently smelting in the US has not stopped. Hummmm.....
    Given that, my apologies.
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    If you are shooting black powder then you should be concerned with a shortage. Pure lead is harder to find. Has to be soft lead for BP, soft enough to easily deform with a fingernail.

    But smokeless powder used hardened lead, which is pretty easy to find. Wheelweights, and most lead you dig up at a range is hardened lead with tin and antimony. I have enough of that stuff that I nave a hazmat bin for the stuff.

    But that pure BP lead, that I gotta dig around for. Someone once suggested plumbing supply stores for that. Get a hardness tester so you can test the stuff (or be a redneck like me and use your thumbnail to SWAG* it.) Also, if you cast your own, you will need a sizer/luber with the dies for your caliber (and a lube heater.)



    *Acronym: Scientific Wild-Ass Guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Rotten View Post
    If you are shooting black powder then you should be concerned with a shortage. Pure lead is harder to find. Has to be soft lead for BP, soft enough to easily deform with a fingernail.

    But smokeless powder used hardened lead, which is pretty easy to find. Wheelweights, and most lead you dig up at a range is hardened lead with tin and antimony. I have enough of that stuff that I nave a hazmat bin for the stuff.

    But that pure BP lead, that I gotta dig around for. Someone once suggested plumbing supply stores for that. Get a hardness tester so you can test the stuff (or be a redneck like me and use your thumbnail to SWAG* it.) Also, if you cast your own, you will need a sizer/luber with the dies for your caliber (and a lube heater.)



    *Acronym: Scientific Wild-Ass Guess
    There was a guy on ebay a few years back. Had lots of 720 50 cal 385gr buffalo bullets. $35

    I wish I had brought more. They shoot into the same hole at 50yds with my fast twist barrels.

    In a pinch for patched RB shooting I can melt a few.

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    50 cal is little small for my needs. My double is 58cal. I shoot bullets as heavy as 560grains. They use so damned much lead that sometimes I dig em out of the backstop (the holes in my target box are so big that I can candle the holes and see where the rounds went.)

    But that's pure lead, which is hard to find.
    I have some buffalo bullets, but the lube has gone hard. I also just cast a coule of coffee cans worth of mini-ball 58s, but I need to size/lube them before I can use them. It's on my list...it's just a long list.

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    What sort of double? A kodiak maybe?

    I have a 58 and some T/C maxis are that big but I prefer the hornaday GP at 525gr.

    Have been looking at getting a witworth or gibbs in 45 and shooting 500gr + out to 1000 yds.
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    Yep, I got the Kodiak in 58 cal. What a beast; you gootta wipe off all the testosterone beore you can shoot it. It'll kill anything on the continent, in or out of a zoo.

    I prefer to shoot authentic bullets when i shoot BP, so I have resisted buying modern bullets. Don;t believe in sabots, or jacketed rounds (and definately not those inline BP rifles---they're cheatin!") The most modern mould I have for BP is a LEE REAL bullet mould (hate the thing, the bullets suck.)

    Were you talking about getting one of those bench-mounted BP rigs? I've seena few and they are like black powder artillery. Accurate--crazy accurate, but they are a beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Rotten View Post
    Yep, I got the Kodiak in 58 cal. What a beast; you gootta wipe off all the testosterone beore you can shoot it. It'll kill anything on the continent, in or out of a zoo.

    I prefer to shoot authentic bullets when i shoot BP, so I have resisted buying modern bullets. Don;t believe in sabots, or jacketed rounds (and definately not those inline BP rifles---they're cheatin!") The most modern mould I have for BP is a LEE REAL bullet mould (hate the thing, the bullets suck.)

    Were you talking about getting one of those bench-mounted BP rigs? I've seena few and they are like black powder artillery. Accurate--crazy accurate, but they are a beast.

    No, the Gibbs and Whitworths were ca. 1850s designs, 45 cal and a big bullet ( 500+ gains) with high ballistic coefficient . They still use them at very long range matches. Pedersoli makes a nice Gibbs.

    I do like the Kodiak, as what you might be shooting at might bite you, and one more shot is good.

    I have been shooting real BP guns most of my life. It is hard to get real BP lots of places these days.

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    what about air gun pellets? if nothing else might make some crazy defense load if you just loaded some of those unmelted in the smoothbore, the craziest thing I ever loaded in my shells was skittles just so I could yell "taste the rainbow MF'er". might be a bit cheaper to walk the local parking lots for tire weights I used to do this long time ago to get lead for casting bullets.
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