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Stockton Ca - Money For Nothing

This is a discussion on Stockton Ca - Money For Nothing within the Political News and Topics forums, part of the General Discussion category; And so it starts … the threat of socialism begins its climb. California's 'foreclosure capital' to give away $500 a month to residents in experimental ...

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    I caught a video where Dr. Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist, was answering a question about IQ, and he was very disturbed with the possibility of handing out money to the truly unintelligent.

    So the basic break down is...
    Back in the 60's, the military determined through testing that they should never recruit any person with an IQ of less than 83. The reason was, people with this low of an IQ could not be taught to perform ANY task in the military that did not result in a net negative impact(costs more to fix their mistakes than to train and perform the job). That means they were a detriment to the system no matter what job they tried to do.
    Well, the next question is, how many people in an average society have this low of an IQ.
    The statistically verifiable answer is... 10%.

    Take a moment and soak in that information.
    10% of the general population cannot perform ANY function in society that has a net positive result.
    If you are any kind of compassionate human being, that should hurt you at your core.

    Well, Dr. Peterson then took the discussion to the idea of paying these people a wage to do nothing.
    On the face of it, it's not a harmful thing to think that they are being paid less than the cost to train them and fix their mistakes.
    However, we have to still consider their capacity.
    He concluded that giving low-IQ people a fixed income of free money would prove to be terribly dangerous for a society at large. They would spend it on vices and nonsense, and it would never actually contribute to the greater economy or benefit society at all. They would still end up in poverty.

    I would suspect the 100 people chosen for this Stockton experiment are much closer to that 83 than to 100 on the IQ score. You don't give away free money to somebody who already makes plenty, right? (liberal thinking, no tax cuts for the rich, *grumble* *grumble*)
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    I think Stockton was also the city that paid gang bangers to not shoot each other. Can you imagine getting paid to NOT shoot your enemy?
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    Fools will be murdering each other, to get to the front of the line. Cockroaches of all colors, living the high life. 1000-1500 dollars a month, shit, they will be robbing each other, extorting, prostituting that money away so quick, that the stock market will rise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Watchman View Post

    WOW!

    California should be our new country capital! Trump should move it there ASAP! That way we can dissolve the state liberal government and replace it with democracy elected repesentivies from around the country that actual are much more moderate!!!! Only way to stop the stupidity from spreading is to dissolve it's sovernty completely.

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    A few years ago 2 or 3 countries in Europe did this, I believe the Netherlands was of of the countries.

    Anyway the thought behind giving about $600 - $1200 per month to 1000 people (one country used 2400 people if I remember correctly) for 12-18 months was that people who felt bad about themselves because they earned so little before the handouts would feel better about themselves and improve their lives by getting better jobs, cleaning up their homes, reduce domestic disputes, ect. A secondary goal behind giving this money out was for the people who really worked hard, 50-80 hrs a week, the hope was they would reduce the number of hours they worked and instead dedicate those hours towards education to raise their long term earnings.

    The people had to apply for the program and were selected at random if their income was in a low income range. Sociologists visited the recipient's homes and the people's lives was monitored both before, during, and after the money stopped. While there were a few cases of people using the money to improve their long term income potential the vast majority of people instead worked less and had more domestic problems.

    All of those countries ended the programs but I think some other countries in Europe are trying or discussing it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    A few years ago 2 or 3 countries in Europe did this, I believe the Netherlands was of of the countries.

    Anyway the thought behind giving about $600 - $1200 per month to 1000 people (one country used 2400 people if I remember correctly) for 12-18 months was that people who felt bad about themselves because they earned so little before the handouts would feel better about themselves and improve their lives by getting better jobs, cleaning up their homes, reduce domestic disputes, ect. A secondary goal behind giving this money out was for the people who really worked hard, 50-80 hrs a week, the hope was they would reduce the number of hours they worked and instead dedicate those hours towards education to raise their long term earnings.

    The people had to apply for the program and were selected at random if their income was in a low income range. Sociologists visited the recipient's homes and the people's lives was monitored both before, during, and after the money stopped. While there were a few cases of people using the money to improve their long term income potential the vast majority of people instead worked less and had more domestic problems.

    All of those countries ended the programs but I think some other countries in Europe are trying or discussing it now.

    And THOSE countries should be kicked out of NATO... why do WE have to defend socialism? Let Russia invade them haha!! Then Russia can spread some democracy they DESERVE their way! haah!

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    All of this has already been attempted, with abject failure each and every time. Not tried in the exact same manner, but in different formats which, in the end, amount to the same thing: payment for merely existing/breeding from the pockets of those who produce.
    Welfare: FAILED. It only produced generations of welfare recipients who now feel entitled to it.
    Housing "projects": FAILED. Built in the 60's and 70's, these projects became crime-ridden, graffiti covered, urine/feces smelling atrocities in a mere few years.
    Section 8: FAILED. As a small time real estate investor, I can tell you first hand that MANY landlords would never consider a section 8 family even though the rent is guaranteed... too much damage and drama.
    Food stamps. Back in the day (1970"s) food stamp fraud was so rampant that they had to find ways to prevent recipients from selling/trading them for illicit goods on the street. They have since given up given the incoming tide, and things are even more loosely managed now.
    Medicaid and state "health plans"... meaning YOU pay for those who can't/won't. AND anytime an indigent walks into an emergency room and gets free care BY LAW, don't think you're not paying for that as well with higher medical costs overall.
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