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Reasonable reloads for civilian CCW?

This is a discussion on Reasonable reloads for civilian CCW? within the Pistols and Revolvers forums, part of the HandGuns, Pistols and Revolvers, Long Rifles, Shotguns, SKS, AK, AR category; I'm not in law enforcement, just a guy who goes to the mall. I carry a five shot SW J-frame in a thumb-break right kidney ...

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    Reasonable reloads for civilian CCW?

    I'm not in law enforcement, just a guy who goes to the mall. I carry a five shot SW J-frame in a thumb-break right kidney holster. I have a five shot HKS reload in my jacket pocket.

    My intent is to grab my wife, find an exit and be out of the line of fire without discharging a single shot.

    I do have a reliable P238, but I'm not sure if a Rambozo guise is what I want. Am I properly outfitted for daylight shoppers?
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    That is one of my standard carries - snubnose in my front pocket (357 mag or 44 Special) with one HKS speed loader in my other front pocket.
    My third option, which I am utilizing more and more, is a Ruger LCP2 .380 auto as a pocket carry. Although, the horsepower of the 357 magnum is a comforting feeling. Besides, with the 357, if you're close enough you can set the bad guy on fire with the muzzle blast. (That's a joke, folks)

    Statistics of gunfights show you probably won't even reload.

    As far as an active shooter scenario, you have that absolutely correct. Escape, evade, shoot only as a last resort to defend yourself and your wife/kids.
    Let the keyboard commandos play Rambo.
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    Oh, I'm all for "escape and evade." One of my weaknesses is that in a mall situation you cannot reliably pinpoint just where the shots came from. For example, during the last banger incident (he pulled his own firearm and shot himself in the thigh) about 200 screaming girls ran out the front main entrance of the mall. They did not know what they might be running into, they just ran.

    I let every single person in the food court exit before I moved at all. My wife did the same thing at Barnes & Nobles which was directly across from me.

    Unless the shooter can be seen--or has eyes on you--there is no need to run willy-nilly anywhere. Relax, take a breath, pat yourself down to make sure your CCW is snapped securely and you know which pocket your reload is in. If things are that bad, you have to make calm decisions.
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    Yeah you'll be OK. One fire ball out of that J-frame with a 357 and everybody will run.

    Keep a S&W M&P 360 with extended crimson trace laser grips in my coat pocket. Figure the little red dot might help deter the need to shoot. If not all the better for a quick shot in a less then perfect situation. That little extension is just enough for full grip with my big paws.
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    My snub is a SW 642. I fire Hornady .38 SPL 110 grain FTX ammunition. I'm hoping this round does indeed penetrate +/-10 inches and stops. Most of my likely confrontations would happen among a lot of innocent people, and I do not want perforation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tourist View Post
    My snub is a SW 642. I fire Hornady .38 SPL 110 grain FTX ammunition. I'm hoping this round does indeed penetrate +/-10 inches and stops. Most of my likely confrontations would happen among a lot of innocent people, and I do not want perforation.
    Just one more good reason to not try to play cop and "take out" a shooter.
    If you miss, and that chance is very good, and hit a bystander, you may not be charged by police, but you damn sure will be sued. And lose everything you have or ever will have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rice paddy daddy View Post
    That is one of my standard carries - snubnose in my front pocket (357 mag or 44 Special) with one HKS speed loader in my other front pocket.
    44 Special is a very underrated round. I am a huge fan. I was excited to see Ruger chamber a version of their GP100 in it recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewRiverGeorge View Post
    44 Special is a very underrated round. I am a huge fan. I was excited to see Ruger chamber a version of their GP100 in it recently.
    Timely post, yesterday and today I've carried my Ruger GP 100 .357 mag in shoulder holster. I never felt under-gunned.

    Thanks George, I've got to check out the GP 100 in .44SP
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewRiverGeorge View Post
    44 Special is a very underrated round. I am a huge fan. I was excited to see Ruger chamber a version of their GP100 in it recently.
    For many years I have lusted for an early 1950’s S&W Target Model 44 Special.
    This is before S&W assigned model numbers.
    They were built on the large N frame, had adjustable sights and most often a 4” barrel.
    One of THE BEST revolvers ever made.

    I’ve also thought about sending my 1959 Ruger 357 Blackhawk Flat Top off for conversion to 44 Special.
    But then, why ruin a collectible when I can simply load Specials in my Super Blackhawk.
    Although, laying the Flat Top next to the Super is like parking a Corvette next to a Mack dump truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tourist View Post
    My snub is a SW 642. I fire Hornady .38 SPL 110 grain FTX ammunition. I'm hoping this round does indeed penetrate +/-10 inches and stops. Most of my likely confrontations would happen among a lot of innocent people, and I do not want perforation.
    38 was putting men down a long time. You are not under gunned with a 38.
    Most often I carry my LC9S no spare mags . If I need to carry more ,maybe I need to think about where I am hanging out.
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