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USS McCain Collides with Oil Tanker

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    8 years of Obama and this is what we have for leadership in the military. But you can bet they are up to date on transgender PC and medical care for them. The rest of the services are in the same boat.
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    The ship was named to honor his father's and grandfather's outstanding careers serving in WW2 and later. While it's a shame the current POS senator has the same name. Lets not belittle the great men that fought bravely to receive such an honor to have a ship named after them. Let alone the current hero's serving on her.

    I have no problem if we all bash the crap out of the senator. He deserves it with his recent actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipper View Post
    The ship was named to honor his father's and grandfather's outstanding careers serving in WW2 and later. While it's a shame the current POS senator has the same name. Lets not belittle the great men that fought bravely to receive such an honor to have a ship named after them. Let alone the current hero's serving on her.

    I have no problem if we all bash the crap out of the senator. He deserves it with his recent actions.
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    The current John McCain deserves respect for what he once was . But that does not mean we can not call him out on what he has become. To many years in the swamp.
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    Karl Marx said, "Destroy their culture, rewrite their history. Ruin their art and literature, and defame their heroes, by offering fabrications to scandalize that which they considered good.
    After reading this Obama said I am on it.

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    A question was posed...
    Was the McCain hacked?
    Not in the computer sense (though possibly).
    In the last three months, three ships out of Yokosuka, Japan have collided with other ships.
    Two of them very serious.

    5/09/2017 – USS Lake Champlain
    6/17/2017 – USS Fitzgerald
    8/21/2017 – USS McCain

    Ship collisions are rare, but three in three months?
    Maybe these accidents weren't accidents.
    Meaconing of radar and GPS is a possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck View Post
    I'm past Air Force, but would not the CIC be fully manned at all times? With some of the best radars in the world on an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer, how is it possible to keep running into slow merchant vessels? How can we trust the navy could fight a war if they can't even keep from running into other ships?
    I live in the far east and I can tell you this is exactly what locals are thinking. The issue is past the embarrassment phase and more like "How can the USA protect it's allies if it can't even handle things during peacetime?"
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    I spent almost 30 years on merchant ships. Doesn't matter if GPS, radar, or anything electronic is hacked or malfunctions. That's what watch officers and lookouts are for. These people are supposed to LOOK. This is especially important in confined waters like the Straits. It is highly probable that there was heavy traffic but still no excuse for a collision. Many times our bridge officers got slammed with heavy traffic but then they call for additional manpower to help con the ship. A modern merchant ship has just 2, and in some cases only 1 man on watch on the bridge. Our navy ships have the OOD, JOOD, quartermaster, and lookouts. Probably more than this. In addition they have CIC manning the radars. If civilians can safely con a 100,000 ton ship with 2 men, surely the Navy should be able to do at least as well.

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    Word on the street is the USS John S McCain had lost steering prior to the collision, then regained limited power and steering and was limping back to port when it was struck.

    If this is true, and the McCain was broadcasting/signaling its restricted maneuverability, the tanker was required to yield by international law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepperLite View Post
    Word on the street is the USS John S McCain had lost steering prior to the collision, then regained limited power and steering and was limping back to port when it was struck.
    Hmmm... That sounds like the real-life John McCain - lost his steering, limited power and limping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepperLite View Post
    Word on the street is the USS John S McCain had lost steering prior to the collision, then regained limited power and steering and was limping back to port when it was struck.

    If this is true, and the McCain was broadcasting/signaling its restricted maneuverability, the tanker was required to yield by international law.
    And if it isn't true, then it's damage control by the Navy's PR team.

    Let's hope it's true.

 

 
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