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This is a discussion on Chemical leak in Houston within the News & Links forums, part of the General Discussion category; Originally Posted by tks Companies shouldn't be able to go unregulated or unchecked, this is where I've had an arguments with many libertarians. I'll admit, ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tks View Post
    Companies shouldn't be able to go unregulated or unchecked, this is where I've had an arguments with many libertarians. I'll admit, I'm a bit prejudice against learning more about the subject, Alex Jones and his corresponding websites have just done one too many stories on the subject.
    yeah, Alex kinda killed it didn't he!? Doesn't mean we should stop educating ourselves, The world is ours, time we take it back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jro1 View Post
    I think we can provide for everybody, we just need to better manage the problems. We are very poor managers i'm affraid!
    I concur. There's all this open space. There are all of these people. They go unused. How many people sit on their butt and don't contribute. How many people own land that goes unused because of profit. Nuts.




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    Quote Originally Posted by James m View Post
    I concur. There's all this open space. There are all of these people. They go unused. How many people sit on their butt and don't contribute. How many people own land that goes unused because of profit. Nuts.
    Unreal isnt it? they should force all the welfare bums to work on farms and start contributing back to society!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jro1 View Post
    Unreal isnt it? they should force all the welfare bums to work on farms and start contributing back to society!
    Socialist/Marxist much?

    Who are the 'they' in your statement above?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tks View Post
    Companies shouldn't be able to go unregulated or unchecked, this is where I've had an arguments with many libertarians. I'll admit, I'm a bit prejudice against learning more about the subject, Alex Jones and his corresponding websites have just done one too many stories on the subject.
    Sounds like you do have some knowledge of the subject, after all.

    Again, do what you need to do to protect your family.

    If you like your Roundup, you can keep your Roundup.

    I know folks who use it for their crops, yet expect their wives to by organic, non-GMO foods for their own families. Do the same.
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    Modified seeds are getting into fields where they are not supposed to be.

    combining pollen from two varieties to create a third is much different then genetically altering the base makeup of a plant.

    I fear that 50 years from now we will realize the real danger and it will be too late...

    my question is this..I am 52 years old...We did not have any kids with allergies to peanut butter when i was in school, we never really heard of autism, diabetics we had but not as many as today....

    SO - what happened to increase these things

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    Do I wish that we had natural foods like the old days? YES. But we don't, so there is really nothing that we can do. Do I want the US Congress to enact more laws and regulations? NO. Do I wish I were younger and could line up every sumbitch in Congress, the White House and everyone in the EPA and systematically kick their ass one by one (except the females)? YES

    But it ain't gonna happen, hell I tweaked my back bringing in some damn firewood from my wood yard yesterday. And I'm not happy about either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inor View Post
    I'll bet it is an especially big nuisance to the dead guys. Where do they get these idiot public relations people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jro1 View Post
    Unreal isnt it? they should force all the welfare bums to work on farms and start contributing back to society!
    Sorry, I wasn't aware that the 'welfare bums' were offered that choice. Now, let's give a small lesson in economics. What happens when the market gets flooded by, what, another 25% of produce? Well, that's not the end of it. Yes, some large corps that produce seeds and farm equipment do better on their bottom lines. But here's the other side of that. First prices at the store fall. You say 'yay'. The farmers don't. Remember, they are now getting less money in sales. Some may well go out of business. Because that extra food doesn't go to feed the poor. Not unless someone in government buys it all. And then what? Your taxes go up and you complain more about government and taxes. Meanwhile, those farmers who are now out of business are out of jobs. What's your answer for them? Do you tell them to "go out and find a job" when there are none? Do you tell them to go out and work for minimum wage to support their families? What happens when there are no minimum wage openings, because the business owners would rather hire high school kids who don't need medical or retirement plans? After all, you hate welfare. Would you tell them "better die, then, and decrease the excess population"? Scrooge mentiond that, but it wasn't too well received. Anyway after the initial surge, seed and equipment sales go back down, because there are now less farms in business. Supply drops as well and prices go back up. I seriously doubt if your taxes will go down, since the government now has a lot more unemployed people to support.

    End result?: more people on welfare, higher taxes, the same net amount of food, the creation of government farms, some large corps got richer, and a lot of ruined lives.

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