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Trump abandons our allies.
This is a discussion on Trump abandons our allies. within the News & Links forums, part of the General Discussion category; The Kurds have fought with us and been screwed over at least three seperate time, with us pulling to leave them alone to face our ...
The Kurds have fought with us and been screwed over at least three seperate time, with us pulling to leave them alone to face our common enemy. They have had gas used on the and all manner of evil.
This has been done with the promise of their own nation state to exist in, as they are hated on all sides. I can only speak for me, but If I were a Kurd, I'd execute the next American bastard who tried to get me to fight for them with promises of what the US will do for them. In these actions...Americans where the sleazy state department and DOD leads, lying in excess and wondering wy people around the world are starting to really hate us.
Sad move in my book. You find yur pony, trainin, yur pony, and encurage your pony and if they try and fail we the you remember them fondly. UNFORTUNATELY we now tell baold faced lies eye to eye and still wonder why people hate us.
The middle east has fought and killed each other farther back than written history can account for.
One contingent or 20 of them from some other country will never change that.
Time to cut the cord, . . . bow out, . . . bring the troops home from every one of those scum bag muslim countries.
Want to do something with the troops, . . . ask Israel if they need a boost, . . . at least they are our friends.
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It gets worse. I know a Turk who is now a U.S. citizen. He stated that you aren't a man if you haven't had sex with a little boy.
Originally Posted by Annie
That is a glimpse into the collective mind of our "ally."
Why in the Hell are we allied with people with such a mindset?
Don't even get me started on why we are buds with the House of Saud.
The U.S. government has a history of f..... screwing over indigenous people who fight for us in foreign lands.
Originally Posted by Old SF Guy
No. I don't want our kids in places where they shouldn't be in the first place. I'm sick of these stupid half-assed "wars." At the same time, we have the luxury of going home when those people who sided with us are allowed to stay on their land and die, usually by the weapons sold to their opponents by us.
The whole damned scene is f...... screwed up.
Sometimes you need to let nature fix itself. The Kurds have abandoned themselves as they continue to choose infighting instead of banding together to fight against a common foe.
If you look at who is upset we are leaving, its probably the right thing.
Didn't take long for the media to blame Trump for "abandoning" Syria, which seems a little hypocritical to me.
Either support the US in being the global peacemaker or support them NOT being the global peacemaker.
You can't have it both ways
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I cannot disagree with Trumps logic of "These people have been fighting each other for centuries and we shouldn't get involved", but we are involved because we have agreements with Turkey for military bases and other purposes. We should exert economic pressure as needed to restrain the fighting to border clashes, vice allowing them to wipe out our once ally against ISIS. It sets a bad precedent to people our SF folks will be interacting with later, trying to get them to side with the US.
It is the duty of the military to protect us on our homeland; not smother the globe with forced red white and blue 'liberty and democracy'
Not our problem; Bring all the troops home and let our 'allies' do their own dirty work
Help me out, I don't understand how anybody can use the excuse "We can't continue to spill American blood" to help allies. Why is one exclusive of the other? All Trump had to do is tell Erdogan "We have a predator drone hanging out over the border. If you so much as look at the Kurds. You'll be looking at a bunch of cruise missiles coming over the horizon." We have enough stand off weapons that we could keep Turkey away from the Kurds forever without spilling any American Blood
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I hope none of our people were in that camp when the Turks attacked it. Our "allies," the Turks.
A reminder for those who might have forgotten....
Turkey is not our friend.
It was Turkey that, early-on, was caught red-handed helping ISIS to smuggle oil stolen from Syria, and to sell that oil on the black market. Turkey literally waved-through their border checkpoints, hundreds of stolen oil tanker trucks, carrying stolen Syrian oil.
This little smuggling operation, with sales handled through Turkey, netted ISIS about $100 Million A MONTH; which they used to buy weapons, hire people and expand.
When Turkey was CAUGHT doing this, by Russian Intelligence who provided the world with actual video of these trucks being waved-through the Turkish Border checkpoint, Turkey was forced to halt their participation in this theft-smuggling cash cow, which resulted in de-funding ISIS helping its collapse.