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63% Of Illegals Use Welfare

This is a discussion on 63% Of Illegals Use Welfare within the News & Links forums, part of the General Discussion category; Originally Posted by StratMaster I can be one absurd, conceited, arrogant jackass when the mood (or a few bourbons) hits me (yes, you all agree, ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StratMaster View Post
    I can be one absurd, conceited, arrogant jackass when the mood (or a few bourbons) hits me (yes, you all agree, no need to chime in)... but I never had a big enough idea of myself to suspect someone would devote their time 24/7 following and challenging whatever tedious drivel/litany I was posting on the web. I'm just not that interesting (again, no need to chime in with agreement LOL).
    I never had such a big idea of myself either, yet I have a stalker that is that dedicated. Not only does the guy follow me onto EVERY board I go on - he is now back to where he started, from which he was BANNED under the name Sarge7402. All you have to do is a little research. All you guys do is bitch about me. Yet you got played by a POS that never served a day in the service and you thanked him for something he didn't do and don't give me the opportunity to speak my piece.

    It's great if you don't want to read what I write. Nobody is forcing you to read it. What is that makes you want to judge me? BTW, not only did you guys get played by a professional troll, his ego is so big that he got into a pissing match with a guy named watchman. The exchange went 650 + posts before I quit following it. So, all I see from these guys is go along to get along. And if there is anything more than that, Denton failed to articulate it. There is no commitment to preserve, protect and defend the First Amendment either?

    I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'd fight to the death for your Right to say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatTheHeck View Post
    I hear a lot of leftists who claim illegals contribute to the local economies even though they do not pay taxes.

    Then I read reports like this.

    Recently read a report saying Social Security is in big trouble as in 2010 we fell to the 2.8 workers to 1 beneficiaries and it is projected to fall even further. Note: in order to be viable there has to be at a minimum 3 workers to every 1 beneficiary.

    Meanwhile, you have these illegals not only not contributing, but also taking at the same time.

    In short, we are running out of money.
    I have read the reports that Socialist Security is virtually broke as well. Then, as fast as that comes out, conservative talk show host Herman Cain is on the radio claiming that there is no such thing as a Social Security fund. He states that the money is taken from the general budget and no separate account for SS exists. For me it is double talk.

    The reality is, the cheap foreign labor IS necessary to keep America going at this time. Those people produce more work for a lower price. So, the employer not only saves on the labor costs, but gets an increase in productivity for his money. By contrast, we are a nation of drug users. For pointing that out, I have a few critics that follow me around advocating that I go see a mental health official for drugs. They brag about the booze they drink and they waste their time in pissing matches and personality contests.

    The average American starts their journey with having been prescribed Adderall or Ritalin for the non-existent condition of ADD / ADHD as a child. By high school they advance to opioids (whether legal or illegal.) Some of them will end up on SSRIs and mild to hard core drugs from marijuana to heroin. Many will become alcoholics. By their teens they have twenty tattoos on their bodies and a lot of body piercings; they have acquired a drug habit and a criminal record; they don't have a driver's license nor a high school diploma.

    The United States represents 4.4 percent of the world's population and 22 percent of the world's prison population. Americans consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply. For every drug addict that is in a mental health facility, you have more than TEN drug addicts serving their time in prison. We have more people in prison than any nation on the planet.

    And so, we have those who will swear up and down that these so - called "illegal" aliens somehow manage to wait in long lines all day and break the welfare system and steal (sic) your jobs at the same time. They cannot stand the reality that the undocumented workers, by and large, get an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number and pay the SS taxes. They pay $12 BILLION DOLLARS per year into Socialist Security and will never be able to take one thin dime out in retirement.

    The reality is, drug cartels exist due to America's insatiable appetite for drugs. Furthermore, with the bulk of our citizenry being drug addicts, alcoholics, and people with a criminal history with no job skills, no coping skills, no education and an inability to focus they are unqualified to be in today's job market. Most of them spend their time in mommy's basement or maybe in government housing, pecking on their keyboards all day long, blaming so - called "illegal aliens." While they are suggesting that I join them in taking drugs and drowning myself in booze, I'm more likely to be searching the patches of woods in my neighborhood for the homeless. I'm trying to take those people to shelters, get them into rehab programs, and give them a reason to clean up their act and become productive.

    As Americans, the parents turned the rearing of their children over to the doctors and the government. Those people used Big Pharma instead of dealing with dysfunctional homes. Now we have an entire generation of misfits that cannot function. They cannot even be honest. In the figures cited in the OP, they use the figures of people who entered via proper channels and they are sucking off the system "legally."

    Even if we could force the so - called "illegal aliens" out and build a wall around America, it could only minimize the numbers of people here. What it cannot do is to rehabilitate those who are on drugs and alcohol. It cannot educate those people or do something that would lead to the expungement of their criminal records. It won't get rid of the tattoos and body piercings that make people look like circus freaks. It won't help them to be able to read ten paragraphs and have a civil conversation. It won't help them with problem solving skills.

    As long as the government is paying people NOT to work - and I have family members (just as ALL of you do and some of you doing it yourselves) that accept a government check in lieu of working a job, the real issue continues. It's easier to take that $1200 to $1500 a month (depending upon where you live) and blame those who are merely filling the void you leave behind than it is to clean up your act and become a productive citizen. If we get our own cleaned up, rehabilitated, educated, and able to hold a conversation and read a newspaper, the immigration issue would solve itself. So, when people are urging me to join them in the drug and booze culture, you pretty much see what the REAL problem is. I started a ministry to address this need to get the downtrodden back on their feet. At this point, we could use a little help and a lot less attitude from snowflakes and welfare recipients Hell bent on blaming everyone but themselves for their own shortcomings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch View Post
    They also take that stuff and sell it at swap meets or garage sales. At least they do in CA. Glad my tax dollars supply their inventory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Resister View Post
    And you, sir, represent all that is wrong with America. Too many over-medicated people are telling those trying to help they need meds. Sir, I damn sure don't need meds. At least everyone here can see the value of my critics real criticisms. You take so many drugs that you cannot focus. Since you cannot focus, you don't understand when Uncle Scam is playing you. Now you should take your meds and allow people with both oars in the water have a real conversation.
    You are wrong there, pal.
    I do not smoke, drink alcohol, or use dope.
    The only drugs I take is one pill for my blood pressure, plus over the counter pain meds for my arthritis and nerve pain. Tylenol, Motrin, Aleve and aspirin.

    Nope, my head is a hell of a lot clearer than yours.

    Have a nice day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rice paddy daddy View Post
    You are wrong there, pal.
    I do not smoke, drink alcohol, or use dope.
    The only drugs I take is one pill for my blood pressure, plus over the counter pain meds for my arthritis and nerve pain. Tylenol, Motrin, Aleve and aspirin.

    Nope, my head is a hell of a lot clearer than yours.

    Have a nice day.
    You are making a false claim. IF you ever served in a foxhole, you know damn well how important it is to put differences aside and work together. You can't do it. When you fight for this country, you fight for everyone, not just those you agree with. Somehow that got all screwed up for you - and those who think it's funny to suggest someone go on drugs or booze.

    It's more entertaining though than to think your way through a serious problem, isn't it?

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    I did not fight for you, my country, mom’s apple pie, or any of that other stuff.
    I fought for my buddies.

    If YOU had ever served in combat, you would understand this.

    Now, let’s see how you can garble and twist that. It ought to be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rice paddy daddy View Post
    I did not fight for you, my country, mom’s apple pie, or any of that other stuff.
    I fought for my buddies.

    If YOU had ever served in combat, you would understand this.

    Now, let’s see how you can garble and twist that. It ought to be interesting.
    In the field you fight for your buddies, but when I counsel vets that lost limbs and / or had traumatic head injuries, they say over and over again that it was an honor to fight for America and that they would do it again. It is to people like that we owe a great debt of gratitude that thank you don't even begin to cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Resister View Post
    Go along to get along. It will all be okay. That is what I get from you. Posts are too long and we should realize that some guy without an education, addicted to drugs, and cannot focus has more relevant opinions than the guy busting his ass to fix what is wrong in America.
    That's why I said I'm wasting my time. You'd rather duck and weave. All you got out of what I said was to shorten the posts, and from that one point all you want to do is rationalize why that makes everyone else stupid.
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    And just where do you “counsel vets” and in what capacity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denton View Post
    That's why I said I'm wasting my time. You'd rather duck and weave. All you got out of what I said was to shorten the posts, and from that one point all you want to do is rationalize why that makes everyone else stupid.
    From here on out Denton, you will not hear me apologize, explain, or rationalize a damn thing.

    I've put my life on the line more than once in defense of Liberty and Freedom. I do not need your accolades nor your approval. You want to defend people who get taken by government snitches that aren't even remotely good at what they do... and you can't admit to it.

    If you want to peck your keyboards and save America from the comfort of your computer, good luck. The better way to save America is to be active. In order to do that you have to understand the issues; you have to be involved in your community; you have to educate those that do not have the requisite information; you work to heal the sick, feed the hungry, clothe the naked. When the enemies of America use psychological guerrilla warfare, you go out and meet the challenge. You don't fall for it and get pissed off when someone shows you how you got played.

    The fact is, the Republicans have been winning elections by fewer and fewer percentages. It would be embarrassing for me if I were in charge and were getting beat by Democrats. Generally speaking, if you took the Democrat leadership in this country and turned their brains into dynamite, there wouldn't be enough charge to blow one's nose. To lose elections to political propaganda prostitutes with that low of an IQ should signal that you need to rethink your strategies. I can't teach you either, Denton. I'm not ducking and weaving a damn thing.

    When I walk away from this computer, it will still be on. I have to take two people to a place to get counseling for their drug habit. Then it's off to visit someone who is elderly and their family is too busy to check in on them. After dinner time will be spent on the phone talking to people who have any number of personal / family problems. Some time will have to be spent this week contacting legislators and trying to convince them to vote one way or another on a number of bills. Our church not only teaches people that repentance is required if they want to secure their future, but we also teach prepper skills and show people how to become self reliant. All I've seen from those here who obsess over immigration is egotistical hate mongers that drove even Ammon Bundy into leaving the "movement," so yours truly saw it a decade and a half earlier than he did.

    You're not interested in helping America prepare; you want a good old boy network where guys have to go along to get along, lest you be ridiculed for stating the obvious: most of the really stupid people who obsess over immigration all the time would starve to death in a grocery store and it's a damn miracle that they don't choke on their own spit while waiting on someone else to swab out their throat. Having been beaten, tortured, shot at, shot, ridiculed, ostracized, castigated, chastised, stalked, lied to, lied about and marginalized there isn't a thing in this world a few keyboard commandos can do me that wasn't done in real life. But after decades of fighting this fight, there is one thing you can rest assured of:

    Those who want a constant pissing match instead of a civil conversation are pretty well screwed if / when the SHTF. If you cannot be civil to one another on a discussion board, you're sure as HELL going to fail in the real world. And if you want to try and defend yourself with a majority vote against me on this board, you should look at the nationwide voting in the last elections. You're losing. The real difference between us is that my life is spent doing more than talking about it.

 

 
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