I need a better 22lr.
This is a discussion on Critique my arsenal please! within the HandGuns, Pistols and Revolvers, Long Rifles, Shotguns, SKS, AK, AR forums, part of the Weapons, Protection, Self Defense, Hand to Hand Combat category; I prefer the 300 Winchester Mag for long range. Someone noted a .308 and those are fine too but I like what a 300 WM ...
I prefer the 300 Winchester Mag for long range. Someone noted a .308 and those are fine too but I like what a 300 WM does to an engine block more than the .308. Honestly I invested in a 338 Lapua but don't recommend it to anyone. I found a used 300 WM hunting rifle and I modified a little for a bipod and put a nice scope on it - I can shoot it for so much less than the Lapua and the stopping power / range is very similar. More than enough for me. There are countless rifles and glass available for less than $1250 in the 300 WM category that will suit you. I'd say that the mainline Savage (not the axis stuff) but the 110/111 series does a fine job at the price. This way you can afford glass, bipod, ammo, and pick up a hand reloading kit for the 300 WM, a few hundred extra bullets, a pound of powder and bunch of primers and you'll be stocked for well under $1250.
While I like 10/22's I've grown fond of the older tub fed guns. They are around for $150/250 pretty easily and do a great job.
First off, nice arsenal. Even if you don't add anything to it you can respond to a wide variety of scenarios.
With your budget you can afford something in the Remington 700 or Savage 10 class with decent optics.
I notice you don't have a real MBR; consider something battle-proven like an M1A, SCAR 17s, or FAL, or stick with a familiar design and consider an AR-10.
It's great having a solid variety of specialist weapons; I like it because it means you can arm others in your party. But don't feel you need to have a bunch of firearms (though there's nothing wrong with wanting them for the fun of it). I myself am going for more general-purpose long arms: 1 shotgun with two barrels for HD and hunting, a semi-automatic carbine in .308 to cover CQB, MBR, and hunting, and a .22 for training and hunting.
I agree - you have a good start on a diverse armory.
You need a bolt action rifle for heavy long range work. I like military cartridges because you can get components and ammo just about anywhere in the world. 308 is hard to beet as is the old 30-06. The difference in trajectory between these two and the magnum is around two inches and under that within reasonable ranges that will be used.
I would suggest a 22rim-fire in a rifle and pistol that can fire any of the common four different rim-fire rounds; bb cap, short, long and long rifle. This eliminates any auto-loaders but will give you a diversity of available ammo that is useful anytime.
That will just about complete your armory but you can always add other guns - like a magnum revolver to add diversity to your collection.
Ha, hopefully I don't need a magnum revolver bigger than my .357. That'd be a tough SOB. But you never know...
I'm going to look at a number of things, probably a .308 and a .300 WM.
I thought my AR-15 was a main battle rifle until about a few weeks ago when I really started to get interested in the prepping business. I was thinking of an M1A, just because my grandfather passed on an M1 to my father (who unfortunately had to sell it recently) and it was TOUGH. Made me appreciate the Springfield line of rifles a lot more. At this point, after my long-range and .22 slots are left, I'm probably going to get a tough-ass AK. My girlfriend's dad gave her mom one this past Christmas and WOW is it a fine weapon. It's Romanian and he got it for under $600...I'll have to find out more about that.
What self respecting gun owner doesn't have at least one 22 rim fire in their collection? Why that's just heresy and should be punishable by burning at the stake in public! My Ruger Single Six is by far and away the funnest gun I own and I have a LOT of guns! I lost count of the number of 500 round bricks I have put through that gun a couple of decades ago! Enough said...
I would make a 22 rim fire my next purchase in no uncertain terms!!!
Definitely get a .22 rifle, and a pistol would be good as well. I agree that a scoped bolt rifle would be useful...Savage is an excellent choice for the money, I'd recommend a heavy barreled .308, and don't skimp on the glass.
.300 mag is a great round, but you will burn a lot more powder than in a .308 and brass/ammo is not as common as .308. .308 is used by the military most frequently and good past 600 meters. I am a fan of the lowly Marlin model 60 in .22lr, you can find a good used one for $100 and they are very common so parts are easy to find.
I'm also in the "get .22" camp. I would also add a 9 mm pistol. That caliber will be the most common available, other than .22, in a SHTF situation.
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