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This is a discussion on 1911 question,,, within the HandGuns, Pistols and Revolvers, Long Rifles, Shotguns, SKS, AK, AR forums, part of the Weapons, Protection, Self Defense, Hand to Hand Combat category; I have a question about the 1911, Does the mil spec full size 1911 9mm and a 45ACP have the same frame? If so can ...

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    1911 question,,,

    I have a question about the 1911, Does the mil spec full size 1911 9mm and a 45ACP have the same frame?
    If so can a 9mm be converted to 45ACP by switching a few parts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by budgetprepp-n View Post
    I have a question about the 1911, Does the mil spec full size 1911 9mm and a 45ACP have the same frame?
    If so can a 9mm be converted to 45ACP by switching a few parts?
    Yes. I have one I switch out between .45 and .38 super (9x23 in size I think) You really have to watch out though, not all 1911s are milspec, there are ramped barrels, series 70/80 slides (you can use a series 80 slide on a series 70 frame, but you have to remove the firing pin blocking plunger)
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    That technolgy is a bit out dated. Have you ever tired a Sig?
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    If you want to get really, really technical and picky, if the pistol in question is not "mil spec" it is not really a 1911 or 1911A1, but merely a look alike.
    If'n it ain"t like John Moses Browning designed it and like it was adopted by the US Government in 1911, or as modified in 1924, or any changes made by Colt after Browning's death it is a pretender. A wannabe. A clone. A variant.

    But, since everyone uses the number 1911 to describe any "1911 like" pistol, it seems to be here to stay as a part of our American language.
    And I will not begrudge anyone that uses it.
    But I do retain the right to be an old curmudgeon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol
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    Excuse me for a bit.
    I have to go fondle my Colt Series 70 Government Model MkIV.
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    I qualled on them in the Navy but I never understood the love affair for them. They were great guns for their time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keith9365 View Post
    I qualled on them in the Navy but I never understood the love affair for them. They were great guns for their time.
    They are the best combat handguns ever designed.
    I'm talking battlefield conditions, not a quick little self defense situation on a Saturday night. Combat versus gun fight.

    I have quite a few firearms. The last two that I would ever get rid of are my M1 Garand and my Colt Government Model. These two designs have stood the ultimate tests, and did not fail.
    Did you know a 1911 45 ACP was used by a parachuting American pilot to shoot down a Jap Zero he thought was going to machine gun him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rice paddy daddy View Post
    They are the best combat handguns ever designed.
    I'm talking battlefield conditions, not a quick little self defense situation on a Saturday night. Combat versus gun fight.

    I have quite a few firearms. The last two that I would ever get rid of are my M1 Garand and my Colt Government Model. These two designs have stood the ultimate tests, and did not fail.
    Did you know a 1911 45 ACP was used by a parachuting American pilot to shoot down a Jap Zero he thought was going to machine gun him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rice paddy daddy View Post
    If you want to get really, really technical and picky, if the pistol in question is not "mil spec" it is not really a 1911 or 1911A1, but merely a look alike.
    If'n it ain"t like John Moses Browning designed it and like it was adopted by the US Government in 1911, or as modified in 1924, or any changes made by Colt after Browning's death it is a pretender. A wannabe. A clone. A variant.

    But, since everyone uses the number 1911 to describe any "1911 like" pistol, it seems to be here to stay as a part of our American language.
    And I will not begrudge anyone that uses it.
    But I do retain the right to be an old curmudgeon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol
    OK,, So all my 1911s (I have collected a few) are Colts all but one. Are my later model Colts "A clone. A variant."?
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    Quote Originally Posted by budgetprepp-n View Post
    OK,, So all my 1911s (I have collected a few) are Colts all but one. Are my later model Colts "A clone. A variant."?
    Since the original 1911 was a Colt, designed by a Colt employee (John Browning), any design change made by Colt after the year 1911 still qualify. Such as the Colt Commander, or Colt Officers Model.
    That is why I included "or any changes made by Colt after Browning's death" in my statement.

    I have two Colts, and a RIA Government Model. IF my Colt parts will interchange with the RIA, then it too is a true 1911. Just like the non-Colt manufacturers who produced them under contract for the military. Singer parts will interchange with Remington Rand and Colt.

    I have not gotten around to see if things like the barrel, slide, etc of my RIA will swap with my full size Colt.

    But, this is all minutia in the grand scheme of things. If that Canadian company (I forget the name) wants to call their double stack double action a 1911 because it LOOKS like one, that's up to them. But I know better.
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