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The dangers of "Fake" Martial arts

This is a discussion on The dangers of "Fake" Martial arts within the Hand to Hand Combat and Self Defense forums, part of the Weapons, Protection, Self Defense, Hand to Hand Combat category; Women who trust martial arts training of any kind as their primary form of self-defense are delusional....

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    Women who trust martial arts training of any kind as their primary form of self-defense are delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauboy View Post
    God gave man a brain capable of devising weapons. If you find yourself in a hand-to-hand altercation, your plan failed many steps prior.
    Whatever your method of choice, the goal should be getting back to your weapon.
    A fair fight is for chumps.
    It was Azazel who taught man how to make weapons, much as Lucifer taught us how to make fire. I totally agree that in hand to hand, you should utilize weapons, be they guns, blades, crowbars, whatever. I also agree ere is no such thing as a fair fight. If my opponent gets hit wit a brick, it's because I saw before he did. Good post, brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulag1955 View Post
    Consider shorter paragraphs with extra lines between them if you expect people to read through a long post. White space is a real thing.
    An experienced street fighter will generally beat the crap out of a martial arts guy, I've seen this on the streets and in jail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prepared One View Post
    I am an old brawler from the street and they ain't never been no rules. These days, I ain't goin 15 with ya. I'll put a hole in ya and let the jury decide.

    Agreed, brother
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    Almost every physical fight I was in ended up on the floor. I relied on Aikido for years to redirect someone's assault and make joints go the way they didn't want to go. It worked great. If the fight went to the ground, and most did, I always won, but I sure wish I had learned more jujitsu.
    "There is a destiny that shapes our ends, Rough, hew them as we will."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maine-Marine View Post
    I would guess that 93% of unarmed conflict is directly caused by beer, pride, and a girl with big personalities
    Which is why I avoid all three.
    "There is nothing so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." Winston Churchill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maine-Marine View Post
    This idea of being in shape as a requirement for end times, prepping, blah blah blah.. comes up every 3-4 months

    my answer is the same.. I am older, my back hurts, I am fatter then I was when I was in the military...
    Being in decent shape is just good practice and does in fact go along with one's ability to survive when shit goes wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PreppingFabricator View Post
    In peacetime when things are relatively good, fake martial arts are extremely dangerous. Lots of Bozos with these "no-touch knockouts" and "Demonstration-only" martial arts are looking to fleece you for your hard-earned greenbacks without having to put work into mastering, or even being good at a respectable martial art. Even Kung Fu is being challenged in its home country no less!
    I've been into martial arts before even prepping, and I gotta tell you guys, all these elderly martial arts from antiquity are bull Sh**. They were invented back when there were rules for fighting, and fighting was an art. But we are here to protect ourselves no? In an SHTF life or Death situation, You can't worry about whether or not the other guy is following the rules (For example a rule like "No nut kicking"), you gotta use everything in your arsenal.
    My personal recommendations for hand to hand martial arts would be Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai/Kickboxing. But don't train both equally, pick one style you like and stick mostly with it.
    For example, if you're a big guy (Or gal) that can hoist a grown man over your head? You may be better suited to Grappling (BJJ). Or are you a little guy like me? Then you may be better suited to jumping around like a monkey taking potshots at the jaw of your attacker. But I must stress, It's all about your personal preference, I refuse to try to force anyone into a practice they might not enjoy, but I will do my best to persuade someone who actually cares about their self-defence into a practical form of fighting.
    Two more pieces of advice for you if you are planning on learning a martial art.
    One, Please be hygienic when you are sparring, no one wants to smell an unwashed jock and if you are gonna be "that" guy (or lady) no one will want to spar with you and you'll be SOL for practising your martial art (Unless you are into bar fighting, in which case you may have bigger problems than an unwashed crotch).
    Number two is Conditioning, Conditioning, CONDITIONING. You arent gonna be able to push off an attacker if your Gi is too heavy for you to carry in your arms. But in all sincerity, as with everything physical, your body must be honed, much like a knife, or oiled like the chamber of a firearm in order to achieve your goals. But be smart, learn your limits and don't push past them (I use "Limits" in the context of physiological limiters, For example: I have a bicuspid valve in my heart which is due to a birth defect, meaning my heart can't effectively pump blood through my body and as a result oxygen can't get to my cells. Meaning no matter how hard I breathe, all my exercise is anaerobic, and my stamina is drastically reduced as a result.) It's not uncommon for people to kill themselves while training.
    This concludes my lecture on fake martial arts and unofficial introduction to hand to hand self-defence, Thank you for taking the time to read and I look forward to everyone's feedback! Stay safe out there y'all!
    Recall an ad that ran in the help wanted section of the Sunday Paper in Wichita Falls paper for years. It say Karate Instructor needed..no experience necessary. That always sound sorta goofy. How do a person teach somebody else how to do it if they dont know themeselves?
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    I can attest to the conditioning bit.... you never realize how long 30 seconds is until your in a hand to hand battle for that time...then it seems like an eternity and you are gasping to stay conscious. repetition brings endurance and I found that I could easily beat other folks by simply letting then expend their energy and then choke them out.

    I also agree with the forget the rules aspect unless you're simply competing. but even then occasionally practice the throat punches, eye pokes, and nut punches too...

    most modern day fighters use combinations of multiple disciplines, because as you go from standing to sparring to the ground...each provides different advantages. Martial arts are art, but they also train muscle memory thats useful for a series of different responses.....but responses vary based upon your opponents training....so be prepared for everything from a conditioned counter strike...to a high pitched scream and wind milling hands.

    I disagree with sticking to one and instead fight (spar) a variety of people/discipline so that you can learn how to react to different counter moves or advances.
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    If only Bruce Lee had been this ahead of his time...
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    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

 

 
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