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This is a discussion on The modern "clueless" citizen. within the Hand to Hand Combat and Self Defense forums, part of the Weapons, Protection, Self Defense, Hand to Hand Combat category; (Moderators, if I have placed this thread in the wrong section, please move it, thank you). I pulled up my usual chair in a mall ...

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    The modern "clueless" citizen.

    (Moderators, if I have placed this thread in the wrong section, please move it, thank you).

    I pulled up my usual chair in a mall cafe' and nodded to a great guy. He is a middle-aged, black administrator for the UW Madison, and whom I will only name as "Jeff."

    Let me set the scene. In the cafe' there is a little nook of deeply padded chairs. I've noticed that the usual 'dregs' hang out there, and once I saw a guy run in, make his 'drop' to one of the usual vagrants and beat feet to the door. This is pretty normal, as that little nook is part of the "L shaped" floor plan, out of sight and blocked by a large column.

    As Jeff and talked recently, I asked him why he sat there. He proffered that he didn't know about the "regulars," he just liked a comfy chair. I asked him if he kept any pepper-spray or similar device, since I know the guy to be a real gentleman. He stated he never carried any defensive devices, at all.

    I simply pointed to the food court. Once again, Jeff had never heard about the gangs, the female gangs, the chair fights and the issue of handguns. One idiot shot himself in his own thigh.

    Now, the reason my wife and go to this cafe' is that we have done so for over a decade, made friends with the staff, and except for one jealous husband who came in and punched out his wife, the cafe' is peaceful. The food court outside is the place we avoid, and the cafe' has a private entrance.

    Jeff will probably never change. I mentioned that Jeff is black, but I've also come to understand that there is another rank of urban blacks, that being the upwardly mobile professional blacks. To them, "crime" is for TV shows, not real life.

    I will just ask him to sit with us if my wife and I hear yelling from the food court. But in this day and age, there truly are the innocent and clueless citizens. I rather enjoy their company, but I wonder how they make it through the parking lot...
    ...No matter where you are it's enemy territory...

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    I know you like the Mall and All but someone who may not know your skill set may think YOU are the Modern Clueless Citizen for going to the Mall in the first place.

    When I decide to go all "Charles Bronson/Paul Kersey/Death Wish Kill Me Some Thugs", I'm going to the Mall.

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    Well, Slip, if you've seen me, you'd know that I wear much the exact same crap I wore in the 1960s. Crappy jeans, motorcycle boots, a jean vest and hair that should have been trimmed two months ago.

    The good news is that I just found a pair of jeans I never knew I had. I now have three pair. I burned or gave away all my Dior suits and button down shirts. There was no way in Oshkosh or hell (which might be in the same zip code for all I know) I was ever going to sell myself out again.

    Another thing about Madison. I see old bikers all the time. None of them are flying colors, I just know the type. We nod to each other like brothers of the same fraternity.

    It's going on nine years (I think) for Wisconsin's CCW law. I've carried every day. Then again I might have carried knives since 1964.

    In fact, I play with a knife when I'm at the computer. Today it's a stiletto...

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    Jeff will probably never change. I mentioned that Jeff is black, but I've also come to understand that there is another rank of urban blacks, that being the upwardly mobile professional blacks. To them, "crime" is for TV shows, not real life.

    I will just ask him to sit with us if my wife and I hear yelling from the food court. But in this day and age, there truly are the innocent and clueless citizens. I rather enjoy their company, but I wonder how they make it through the parking lot...
    I am as white as a sheet, and I have been through some Hell in my life; some of my early memories, are being pushed down a hillside, onto rocks, by some punks.
    That broke my head open, and I still have the dents in my skull. Anyway, I count myself fortunate that I saw the cruel side of people, early on.
    And now, I have a .45, and I will shoot. I will cut them too, so I am the antithesis of your buddy, or the clueless in general.

    PS: I am a broken record, and I know that, it is always the Same Old Stuff with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterMills357;1940259.
    And now, I have a .45, and I will shoot.
    My problem is that I live in Wisconsin. Law enforcement insists that you only use the right modicum of force.

    Now I ask you, just what "modicum" should I use if attacked by three bangers? Well, welcome to Wisconsin!

    This is no joke, if you're the victor you almost have to provide info that you were originally the victim.
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    What if Jeff was really special forces recon, and just didn't tell you?
    I'm busting your balls, yes, I see CLUELESS people all the time. Gunshots could go off and they would just look at each other, blankly...
    RIP Corporal BRADLEY COY 6/18/1992-10/24/2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tourist View Post
    My problem is that I live in Wisconsin. Law enforcement insists that you only use the right modicum of force.

    Now I ask you, just what "modicum" should I use if attacked by three bangers? Well, welcome to Wisconsin!

    This is no joke, if you're the victor you almost have to provide info that you were originally the victim.

    You know what the modicum of force is. They get to cut you to pieces; and only then, can you consider self defense.
    Yes, I know what you are thinking, the state of Wisconsin has it in for you, as a white, law abiding man. And you would be right, if you thought that.
    Last edited by MisterMills357; 10-25-2019 at 12:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterMills357 View Post
    they cut you to pieces
    Yes, that's how it starts. Our local thugs (50% mulatto and 50% aboriginal kangaroo), will pull out the cheapest, crappiest, dullest, seven dollar folder and then demand all the money I have.

    I nod, I smile, and I pull out an expensive switchblade with a edge that twinkles. It cracks to the locked position.

    ...I haven't had to cut anyone yet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tourist View Post
    Yes, that's how it starts. Our local thugs (50% mulatto and 50% aboriginal kangaroo), will pull out the cheapest, crappiest, dullest, seven dollar folder and then demand all the money I have.

    I nod, I smile, and I pull out an expensive switchblade with a edge that twinkles. It cracks to the locked position.

    ...I haven't had to cut anyone yet...
    I had to cut a man, and he died, but it was his fault. If he had not attacked me, he would still be alive. He busted Hell wide open IMHO; and he died like a fool.
    That case helped to change WV self defense statutes. And I would do it again, if I had to.
    I am reading The 9/11 Commission Report, and I am about 1/4 of the way through it. It is very well written and it is worth reading. [Sep 23 2019]

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterMills357 View Post
    I had to cut a man, and he died, but it was his fault.
    The moment he formulated the plan to rob you it was his fault.

    But there is a simple reason why my molesters did not die--I had three years of combative blade training.

    The crux of this method began with foils--a mundane practice sword. It might show a man's hand tighten before he thrusts, and any sharp 'smack' with your sword against his creates an 'over-reaction.'

    Now, all these hand movements are exaggerated since even a foil is heavier than a common knife. It teaches the rookie where the real threat is to come from. Knowing this, I snap out the switchblade (enough so my attacker has seen it) and then rotate it behind my right leg. I can change finger placement and the idiot will never know it. And once the knife leaves his sight his own panic begins--also a benefit.

    It's at this point the 'attacker' raises both hands, and believe it or not, calls me an offensive name. The putz has been outed as a coward, but it's me who gets cat-called...

    (BTW, I just got a new folder, a Dwyer/Strider SnG. I'll miss all nine of the daily Italian made stilettos, because they make the best idiot stabbers. At my age you need a knife for food, not fools. Below is my "mall knife." These stilettos are known as "eleven inch models," as the blade is five inches long and the handle is six. Oh, and you'll notice it's made in Italy, as is my entire collection. Good stuff comes from Italy...).

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