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Why the left would win: Even in Armed Conflict

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#1 ·
Saturday Random Musings: Why the Left Would Win the Next Civil War - AllOutdoor.com

This article was read in our church group last night.
We took exception to the element that right minded
people are not able to work together. We work
together. We know of other right minded groups
that do.

This is a good article for anyone who is alone though.
Anyone alone that is thinking they can survive alone
is probably mistaken. Especially if the progressives
force control over us.
 
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@Stockton, I can appreciate what you said, but let me point something out to you, without meaning to be disrespectful.
You have grown up differently from some of us. Things you came here to learn, many of us have lived since birth. Warfare in the cities will be different from warfare in the rural areas.
One should never underestimate their enemy, this is true. But one should not underestimate himself, either.
 
#56 ·
That is my point thank you. I just don't want to
see good people under estimate their foes. @Kauboy the gang I provided a
link about is just one. There is more than one in Fresno. Fresno is just one
of the gang infested cities. In fact they almost are all gang infested. Fresno's
gang population is said to exceed 20,000.

The author of the article called it different then you did. He is suggesting
the politics of the left will enable them to control the police and military. They
will also use the gangs.

Yes gentlemen I grew up in a crime ridden, gang infested, city of 250,000.
A city bankrupt in more ways then one. A city that exercises its control over
smaller cities around it with ease. That is the kind of thing the author of the
article is trying to show everyone. They understand organization. They
understand winning not just at the polls but with the media. They will
isolate the right. They will demonize. And when the gangs take out any
effort to stop them they will get the military and police to sand back and
watch.
 
#57 ·
I think some of us have known for a time the nation will be divided into zones. I expect it will be a while before the urban gangs venture too far from their area of comfort and control. This should give both sides time to define how this will be played out once they decide to make a foray into the wilderness.
 
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#61 ·
The more I think on it, the article is probably leftist propaganda Hoping to cause us to quake in our boots.
 
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#63 ·
And the left isn't? Choose a side, stockton and support it. Sometimes your left coast side creeps out in the conversations. It's not necessarily over confidence so much as we are tired of being pushed, and ready to throw down a glove. Remember what I said earlier? You're just now entering our world. We've been getting ready for unfortunate events for years. That preparation and begrudgingly accepting possible events bolsters confidence, not arrogance. The left has recently had its ego stroked and allowed to have no consequences for so long that they have become arrogant.
It won't be pretty for either side. But while they've been screaming to accept diversity, we've been quietly preparing to cope with adversity.

I've gone two years without Starbucks, you know....:vs_cool:
 
#64 ·
I think the left is, in fact, weaker. Check the scoreboard.

JFK had every cheerleader and actress on the planet. Slick Willie had maybe a dozen--in fact, I think Hillary had more women. Barry didn't have any.

Paper tigers, guys. No boost in their juice. The breed, as we know it, is dying out.
 
#66 ·
There's a meme floating around social media today that sums it up for me.

"Civil War? Our side has 3 billion bullets, their side can't decide which bathroom to use. Do the math."
 
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End of argument. :tango_face_grin:
 
#67 ·
The article is dead wrong. There is a big difference between people fighting for a ideological cause and people fighting to protect their families and communities. The author of that article conveniently left out how all those big current leftist leaders that drew blood for leftist causes in the 60's and 70's where stopped and some imprisoned by people trying to keep the peace. I'm sorry, big difference between marching, chanting, posting on social media, and picking up/using arms against other human beings. I have no doubt there are those that relish it, just like there are those on the right that do. Both types are the ones that we need to fear.

The author also left out the organization skills of the right which is more mainstream; church groups, social clubs, business owners, you name it. You start threatening communities and you'll see just how organized things can get in a hurry.
 
#69 ·
Now for a little more reality.

The silent majority elected Trump. These are your average hard working Americans who are not out there rioting and complaining. Do you really think they will just lay down and give up? Do you think they will really be easy to push around?

So I guess your opinion of the average person is pretty low.

I also get your estimation of the left, gangsters and criminals is pretty high. I'm sure they'll be glad to hear you think so much of them.
 
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The Larger Cities will eat their own (When it all comes down ) they will devolve into Cannibalism and churning infernos of unhindered death disease and hunger , The ones that make a run for it will be attacked depleted and eventually halted as they egress out , they (Big City Folks) will not pull together and create Socialist Fiefdoms and domains of Caring Understanding forward thinking eMe Warlords . Having faith that Power over the Hinterlands and far reaches of States will come from Gleaming Citadels holding sway is cracking me up (And I thought Preppers & survivalists had a grasp of what the future could hold ...
 
#74 ·
Actually, I didn't accuse you of being a leftist, I said some of the left coast comes out in your conversations. The moderate side of the right, just like the moderate side of the left, have a much more grounded perception of what could occur and the cost and consequences associated with the actions.
Because we aren't panicking doesn't mean we aren't taking the threats seriously. If you feel that you are in such a bad area you are facing certain death, leave.
If you can't leave, prepare for problems.
Remember, thread are people here on this forum that have been preparing for uncertain events for decades. And preparedness for uncertain times offers a great sense of calm.
 
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#75 ·
@Stockton, please understand this point...
"Church groups" will not be fighting this war.
You're staring with that misconception, and it's easy to see why it all falls apart from there.

I won't be looking for fireteam members from my local sanctuary.
I have a list of those I will be contacting, one way or another.
They have served under the flag or the badge, and would NEVER fight along side any gang affiliated cretins.

Rough men will fight this war... on both sides. Not the sewing club from the church down the road.
 
#76 ·
simple problem to your inner city gang vs. small town middle-America.... weapons and training... weapons of inner city gangs: pistols, sawed-off shotguns, semi-auto rifles Training: drive-by's and urban run-and shoot.. Weapons of small -town middle America: same as gangs.. PLUS multiple scoped rifles (you seem to leave the surrounding farmers out of your fight)...... Training of small-town middle America? we hunt... have hunted big game since we were able to get a license.. up here in NoDak that means 300yd running shots...(my first deer was a small doe running @ 200Yds with an open sight 303 British Enfield).... add in spotting scopes, camo, and knowledge of our home area.......

you also skipped over my comment of gangs moving out of the cities to fight needing supply lines and constant recruits... there is a reason current gang turf in each city only consists of a few blocks around their neighborhood.... I would be more fearful of current motorcycle gangs than inner-city gangs like you suggest..
 
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