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This is a discussion on shtf.. is this someone's plan? within the General Talk forums, part of the General Discussion category; We live in scary times. When I was born in 1947 there was about 3,000,000,000 folks on Earth maybe 150,000,000 in the USA. Now we ...

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    We live in scary times. When I was born in 1947 there was about 3,000,000,000 folks on Earth maybe 150,000,000 in the USA. Now we are approaching 7,000,000,000 and over 300,000,000. I think the bomb is gonna be the population bomb. That said, men have been living outside of caves for about 10,000 years. We have been keeping some sort of track of what is going on for about 7,000 years. We can look back a see what has happened and adjust our behaviour accordingly. We know what happens in global wars. We know what happens during nuclear strikes. We know what happens in pandemics. There are some things which are still being guess at like what happens in a massive grid failure or a hit by an asteroid.

    Muslims are a problem which are easy to deal with. First, most of 'em are about 5,000 miles away and are living a relatively primitive existance. They don't have the ability to strike at us in any meaningful way. About the best they can do is annoy us and they mostly do that with our assistance. All of the Muslims that attacked us in the name of Allah came to this country legally. We trained them to fly the aircraft. The guy who shot up Ft. Hood was in our army. The last two who bombed Boston were here legally.

    A rational policy would be not to allow any more Muslims into this country, period. Not students, not refugees, not family members.

    But why are we worrying about a few Muslims when there are an estimated 12,000,000 - 20,000,000 Mexicans in this country illegally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Jim View Post
    The Boston bomber hasn't said anything like "I never dun it, i was framed".
    And Al-Qaeda admit doing 9/11 so that sinks the "inside job" conspiracy theory.
    People never take credit for things they didn't do when it makes them a martyr or fits their agenda.
    Last edited by PrepperLite; 06-01-2013 at 09:17 AM.

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    There are too many people, not enough resources and most of the resources are controlled by a very tiny percentage of ultra wealthy people, who own mega corporations. (I am not talking small businessmen here.) It makes sense that they keep us fighting amongst each other, so they can run off with the loot. In the mean time, we argue over stuff like religion and race. What a gig!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripon View Post
    ..our government had chances to stop Pearl Harbor and missed them..
    But Roosevelt made up for it by stopping Hitler..
    If he hadn't, the nazis would have been free to develop the atom bomb and fleets of bombers to carry it-

    "I completely lack the bombers capable of round-trip flights to New York with a 5-ton bomb load. I would be extremely happy to possess such a bomber which would at last stuff the mouth of arrogance across the sea!"-Hermann Goering 1938











    Nazi study of the effects of an atomic blast on NY-

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    Doesn't it remind one of a B-29?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roy View Post
    Doesn't it remind one of a B-29?
    Similar mission similar technology= Similar appearance.

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    In fact, Germany had planes capable of flying the Atlantic and bombing America even before WW2 began, namely their Condor airliners (below). However it would only have been a one-way trip because they couldn't carry enough fuel to get back to Europe.
    But later Hitler might have been unpredictable enough to send one with an atomic bomb to hit NY, the crew could have u-turned and ditched in the sea after dropping it and been picked up by a U-boat.

    "On August 10-11, 1938, Focke-Wulf 200 Condor D-ACON 'Brandenburg' (below) made a record-breaking nonstop flight across the Atlantic from Berlin to Floyd Bennett field in Brooklyn, New York.
    The 4,075 miles flight (6,437 km) took 24 hours and 57 minutes against strong headwinds, at an average speed of 164 MPH (263 km/h). The return flight to Germany took 19 hours and 47 minutes at an average speed of 205 MPH (330 km/h) on August 13, 1938"



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    Quote Originally Posted by retired guard View Post
    Similar mission similar technology= Similar appearance.
    We have been know to "borrow" heavily from other countries, Germany in particular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Jim View Post
    In fact, Germany had planes capable of flying the Atlantic and bombing America even before WW2 began, namely their Condor airliners (below). However it would only have been a one-way trip because they couldn't carry enough fuel to get back to Europe.
    But later Hitler might have been unpredictable enough to send one with an atomic bomb to hit NY, the crew could have u-turned and ditched in the sea after dropping it and been picked up by a U-boat.

    "On August 10-11, 1938, Focke-Wulf 200 Condor D-ACON 'Brandenburg' (below) made a record-breaking nonstop flight across the Atlantic from Berlin to Floyd Bennett field in Brooklyn, New York.
    The 4,075 miles flight (6,437 km) took 24 hours and 57 minutes against strong headwinds, at an average speed of 164 MPH (263 km/h). The return flight to Germany took 19 hours and 47 minutes at an average speed of 205 MPH (330 km/h) on August 13, 1938"


    Condors were used for Commerce raiding and U boat support. Couldn't confirm if they supported Bismark Tirpitz etc.

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    We could 100% withdraw our support for Israel and the radical Islamist would still hate us,

    We could 100% withdraw from the middle east (like we did Germany after WWI) and they'd still hate us,

    The radical islamist follows a 700 AD extreme view of Islam called sharia. This "law" they follow (when it suits them)
    is a fundamental core of the radical islamist. They have illustrate they want it to be earths law. You notice they
    are not seeking to impose it upon China? China would never put up with them; there would be no political correctness.
    Yet China buys plenty of oil from the Middle East. We are not the target because we buy from the Middle East or
    Support Israel - we are the target because we are EASY. They do attack Russia in the northern regions of the
    Middle East but its largely territorial. They don't attack China not because they don't support Israel but because
    they are not easy.

    Ultimately I think this was the chief decision making process for GW Bush in attacking Iraq. Iraq was one of the
    leading militaries of the middle east. I think GW wanted desperately to demonstrate to the Muslim world you are
    no match for us, but sadly we have this thing called a media and political divide. The left found things like
    Abu Grabe which on a grand scale mean nothing, but it enabled the left to show the Muslim world how weak
    and inept we are. We will remain targets to the radical islamist as long as they believe they can beat us. They
    do believe it.

 

 
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