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This is a discussion on Time to Buy within the General Talk forums, part of the General Discussion category; I'm of the mind that now would be a great time to buy weapons in a "private sale" and ammo of any caliber. Beat the ...

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    I'm of the mind that now would be a great time to buy weapons in a "private sale" and ammo of any caliber. Beat the new taxes coming on both and the taxes for pre-owned weapons. Once the IRS gets involved it's going to get very expensive for gun owners. Then throw in the gun insurance and the gun ban will be moot. It seems ammo is coming back slowly and gun prices are edging down a little, but the government is getting desperate for money so be prepared. The ability to tax is the only weapon the government has total control over and it's coming big time, as I said quite awhile ago!

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    All tax legislation must originate in the House of Representatives. As long as that chamber remains in the control of people who embrace freedom and liberty we should be OK.
    If not, then perhaps those who would like to be rulers instead of representatives of the people should be reminded that the American Revolution began as protests over taxes, and became open warfare when the Red Coats tried to seize colonist arms.
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    Its always a good time to buy. There are some firearms that were not as impacted as others in this recent fiasco we've had. Ekim I would suspect in KY you have it good and have access to any number of quality firearms at reasonable prices. Here in CA there is no such thing as a private sale unless the gun is over 50 years old - that changes on Dec. 31 for us and all guns will be required to be "registered" upon transfer. There will be a rush on "over 50's" before that occurs here as people want things off the books so to speak. Some guns that did not move a lot during this fiasco:

    1911's didn't really move up much,
    Ruger P series pistols are a little harder to get but still retail under $400
    Remington 870's Mossy 500's/590's. I'm looking for a 510 though.
    Bolt Actions didn't move much either - any caliber
    I think there was, for a brief time, a surge on high end AR type weapons, but not now

    Really the only hype we have going on here right now is ammo and that is primarily
    223 5.56mm, 22LR, 9mm, and some of the 7.62s. Last Friday I posted on here some
    people were paying way to close to .90 a round for 223s and even a dollar. In just
    the past 48 hours here in CA its starting to slide back to .60 on those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripon View Post
    Its always a good time to buy. There are some firearms that were not as impacted as others in this recent fiasco we've had. Ekim I would suspect in KY you have it good and have access to any number of quality firearms at reasonable prices. Here in CA there is no such thing as a private sale unless the gun is over 50 years old - that changes on Dec. 31 for us and all guns will be required to be "registered" upon transfer. There will be a rush on "over 50's" before that occurs here as people want things off the books so to speak. Some guns that did not move a lot during this fiasco:

    1911's didn't really move up much,
    Ruger P series pistols are a little harder to get but still retail under $400
    Remington 870's Mossy 500's/590's. I'm looking for a 510 though.
    Bolt Actions didn't move much either - any caliber
    I think there was, for a brief time, a surge on high end AR type weapons, but not now

    Really the only hype we have going on here right now is ammo and that is primarily
    223 5.56mm, 22LR, 9mm, and some of the 7.62s. Last Friday I posted on here some
    people were paying way to close to .90 a round for 223s and even a dollar. In just
    the past 48 hours here in CA its starting to slide back to .60 on those.
    I wonder how the BG's get their weapons? Which legal gun shop do you think they buy at? Where there is a will, there is a way. Just sayin

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    I don't think we're going to see much of any legislation as I believe it was all a smoke screen. What the Dems really want is to go along with the U.N.'s desire for a mandatory registration of all firearms and owners. That way they know what you have when it comes time to take them away. I believe they never intended to keep pushing the ban all along, they want registration as the first step in the confiscation scheme as they march on towards their Socialist Utopia. As already stated, it's always a good time to buy. I've bought a few over the last four months. But I'm not adding any new calibers till the ammo trees become fruitful again. I've been wanting a 270 or 308 bolt but can't justify the purchase yet. I see some 270 back on the shelves, but at inflated prices. Was in Gander Mountain today and the only .22 other than bird shot was 50rd boxes of match grade ammo for $25. No thanks, I'll pass.

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    Well as a family steward to 3 generations of firearms that aim to make it too the forth I will abide by the laws governing their sale / registration / transfer. Only if it came to losing them to confiscation would I take them boating with me at Lake Taho and probably capsize and lose them all.


    Quote Originally Posted by ekim View Post
    I wonder how the BG's get their weapons? Which legal gun shop do you think they buy at? Where there is a will, there is a way. Just sayin

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    Quote Originally Posted by trainershawn View Post
    I don't think we're going to see much of any legislation as I believe it was all a smoke screen. What the Dems really want is to go along with the U.N.'s desire for a mandatory registration of all firearms and owners. That way they know what you have when it comes time to take them away. I believe they never intended to keep pushing the ban all along, they want registration as the first step in the confiscation scheme as they march on towards their Socialist Utopia. As already stated, it's always a good time to buy. I've bought a few over the last four months. But I'm not adding any new calibers till the ammo trees become fruitful again. I've been wanting a 270 or 308 bolt but can't justify the purchase yet. I see some 270 back on the shelves, but at inflated prices. Was in Gander Mountain today and the only .22 other than bird shot was 50rd boxes of match grade ammo for $25. No thanks, I'll pass.
    Maybe buying something you don't have a weapon to shoot it with could be a good barter item down the road. As I said before, look for congress to push for higher taxes on shooting items. Both parties never saw a tax they didn't like and congress can always justify another tax. I'm not looking for another caliber to shoot either, but some things can be worth more than money sometimes.

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    I don't expect the current congress to go along with taxes on guns or gun related items. Now at the State level, yes, particularly where I am in CA but since its highly likely I will change my residency to NV before they can accomplish this I don't worry too much about it - like I said this congress was flipped on its ear by the Tea Party. This isn't the congress that adopted obamacare; this is the one that's voted to repeal it a few times. This congress isn't going to raise taxes on your guns or ammo.


    Quote Originally Posted by ekim View Post
    Maybe buying something you don't have a weapon to shoot it with could be a good barter item down the road. As I said before, look for congress to push for higher taxes on shooting items. Both parties never saw a tax they didn't like and congress can always justify another tax. I'm not looking for another caliber to shoot either, but some things can be worth more than money sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripon View Post
    Well as a family steward to 3 generations of firearms that aim to make it too the forth I will abide by the laws governing their sale / registration / transfer. Only if it came to losing them to confiscation would I take them boating with me at Lake Taho and probably capsize and lose them all.
    I'm sure the leo's/government will accept that answer/excuse. I never said break any laws, I said buy from a private party. It happens everywhere it seems, even our government sells to private people and that appears to be legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripon View Post
    I don't expect the current congress to go along with taxes on guns or gun related items. Now at the State level, yes, particularly where I am in CA but since its highly likely I will change my residency to NV before they can accomplish this I don't worry too much about it - like I said this congress was flipped on its ear by the Tea Party. This isn't the congress that adopted obamacare; this is the one that's voted to repeal it a few times. This congress isn't going to raise taxes on your guns or ammo.
    I'll copy your post and take it to the LGS/Wal Mart and show them that the taxes can't go up on guns or ammo. Wow nobamacare was repealed, I missed the memo. I guess we dis agree on what congress will or won't do.

 

 
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