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    how to know when shtf?

    I'm wondering what you guys think the cue to say shtf is.

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    Oh, you will know. It won't be subtle.

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    Maybe its different for everyone. For me it was August 4, 2009. I closed my business that day, had already cashed out as best I could
    and now had to find a way to go from the "normal" life to one self sustained.

    As for economic collapse for all; wait for the news that the dollar is no longer usable for oil on the world market.
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    It really depends on the situation. If it is a hurricane coming, you will have time to prepare. If it is an earthquake, you will receive no warning, but if you prepared in advance, you will be able to handle the aftermath much better. Riots usually are caused by events which upset certain communities - local TV news coverage can give you a warning that trouble may be brewing. Economic or financial disasters are very hard to predict, but you can monitor these by following the financial news outlets. Chemical releases are very sudden and hard to plan against, but if you live near train tracks or industrial areas you need an escape/evacuation plan. Flooding is common during major storm events, so watching weather reports can give you some warning.

    You need to be aware of events happening in your local area - maintaining situational awareness (checking on your surroundings constantly) is one of the best ways to survive in an emergency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oswegoscott View Post
    I always think of SHTF as a massive national disruption
    Agreed, I think Natural disasters are just that a disaster. only something on a global scale would be a true SHTF, at least that's how I look at it. If the US falls I am pretty sure we are taking the rest of the world with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oswegoscott View Post
    I always think of SHTF as a massive national disruption
    I see things differently based on prior life experiences. Can you give an example of any recent massive national disruption in the U.S. other than the Civil War that ended in 1865? That would entail something equivalent to a national blackout - which to my knowledge has never happened, and given the disparate power generation sources in this country, may not even be possible?

    I lived through Hurricane Andrew and the subsequent lawlessness and looting. When you have entire neighborhoods wiped off the face of the earth, that is literally SHTF, at least in my book.

    Rodney King riots in Compton, California - would you consider that SHTF? Earthquakes that collapsed the freeways and bridges in San Francisco Bay Area? Watts riots in the 1960s? Riots in major cities after the Martin Luther King assassination, where entire sections of town were burned to the ground, and Federal buildings were under attack by torch-wielding mobs? Race riots in Tulsa? Does the Federalization of the National Guard qualify? The town of Joplin, Missouri or Greensburg, Kansas devastated by mile-wide tornadoes? Wildfires in the West burning multiple subdivisions to the ground? Would the 1800 people drowned in Hurricane Katrina qualify as SHTF - I'd bet if you ask people in New Orleans that question you may get a different answer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by miho View Post
    I'm wondering what you guys think the cue to say shtf is.
    When the food store shelves are empty or near-empty for day after day!



    But if you're a prepper you'll have enough stocked at home to tide you over for at least a week or two until the government can get food refief convoys coming into the cities, so just sit tight til then.
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    I could never wait for a govt to save me. No way no how. I just don't have the trust in them. Too many strings will be attached or worse.

    Store enough food until your crisps can continuously produce,
    Store enough gas to get to your bug out location, and have a back up plan,
    Create a BOL that sustains you, protects you, and I'd possible enables you to thrive.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Jim View Post
    When the food store shelves are empty or near-empty for day after day!



    But if you're a prepper you'll have enough stocked at home to tide you over for at least a week or two until the government can get food refief convoys coming into the cities, so just sit tight til then.

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    What about those who can't afford bug out location?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ripon View Post
    I could never wait for a govt to save me. No way no how. I just don't have the trust in them. Too many strings will be attached or worse.

    Store enough food until your crisps can continuously produce,
    Store enough gas to get to your bug out location, and have a back up plan,
    Create a BOL that sustains you, protects you, and I'd possible enables you to thrive.

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    What about those who can't afford bug out location?
    I use the saying Plan A Plan B Plan C.....Make them and those that are part of your inner group should know the plan.

    I think those that have it worst off are peeps in the big cities. Almost impossible to get out and unless your in front of the herd all resources will be gone before you pass by.

    I live rurally so I have a completely different set of problems. Budget prepping is not easy and it is a lot of work to set up a sustainable piece of land.

    I live in a pre SHTF mindset. I live as if it has I just still get to enjoy some of the amenities of the civilized world while they are still "affordable" hyperinflation is on the way while our net take is going to go down in a big way over the next few months to years. So be prepared for the financial meltdown it will happen. Just gradual enough for most people to not notice there declining quality of life before its too late.

    Affording a Bug Out location....Yeah thats easy if your a rural type. But if your a city folk best know someone that is of like mind and have a plan to connect with them if the time comes. Or plan on Bugging in. Much more difficult again if you live in the city with food storage and self defense being the huge priorities. But you should always have a Bug Out plan even if its to a local National Forest Lake area. Pre plan and bury some essential supplies and tools in an out of the way place. Off the cuff those are the best ideas I can come up with. Learn the local edible foods around your BOL. Invest in some cold weather crop seeds and regular heirloom seeds. Once SHTF National Land will hold alot less "No Trespassing" then it does today and the Forest Ranger likely wont be dropping by to check that people have paid there nightly fee when they are armed to the teeth. Or better yet use that as a launchpad to your actual BOL. Youd likely want to be within 10-20 miles of a small community so that if there is a return to some order you can obtain supplies or as things calm down you will have a place to return to. Trade etc.
    Dont be the last one of town is critical to surviving a true SHTF situation where masses of people are displaced.
    Last edited by AsteroidX; 02-24-2013 at 12:02 PM.
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