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Death Penalty for Open Carry in Florida?

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    Death Penalty for Open Carry in Florida?

    Anyone member have this fool for a sheriff? Sounds like a threat that would justify self-defense.

    But Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri, a staunch opponent of open carry, said the four amendments wouldn’t make the bill acceptable to him — or safe for people who openly display their guns. For instance, he said, if an officer arrives at the scene of a crime and sees someone with a weapon, “At a minimum, they’re going to be thrown down on the ground with a gun pointed at them — or worse.
    “And if good citizen with a concealed weapon walks into, say, a bank during an armed robbery, Gualtieri added, “he’s going to take one in the chest because he’s a threat.”
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    “And if good citizen with a concealed weapon walks into, say, a bank during an armed robbery, Gualtieri added, “he’s going to take one in the chest because he’s a threat.”

    I don't understand what's being said here. If concealed, how would anyone know he's a threat. And who would shoot him? The police? The robbers?

    Is this man rational, and is his position elective? Wake up, citizens.

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    Sounds like he thinks only himself and his other officers should be able to defend themselves. Hope he loses his position and has to walk around unarmed the rest of his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sideKahr View Post
    “And if good citizen with a concealed weapon walks into, say, a bank during an armed robbery, Gualtieri added, “he’s going to take one in the chest because he’s a threat.”

    I don't understand what's being said here. If concealed, how would anyone know he's a threat. And who would shoot him? The police? The robbers?

    Is this man rational, and is his position elective? Wake up, citizens.
    It is truly baffling how a dangerous idiot like this has office and worse yet, the sheeple ignore.

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    Well, I hope he hates his job, because he's about to lose it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauboy View Post
    Well, I hope he hates his job, because he's about to lose it.
    I would think so given how passionate Floridians are know to be about gun rights. Even gun rights aside, the guy is an ass.

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    What a novel progressive, socialistic, communist idea. Deny someone's natural rights as placed in the Bill of rights in the US Constitution by instituting a death penalty for those exercising such rights. Meanwhile bring in all the jihadists possible to kill citizens in a scheme designed to confiscate firearms and have the US attorney general persecute anyone who speaks against it..
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    My old buddy Inor has said many times; the most important vote you can cast may be for your local sheriff.

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    I always hated those people who would bait police and film them. People who walk around open carrying a handgun or a rifle waiting for cops to stop them and give cops a hard time when they "do their job".

    Well, after reading this post I had a "eureka" moment. I don't hate those so called open carry baiters anymore. In fact I think we need them in pinnelas county. This sheriff needs to be sued and kicked out of office. I realize now that those YouTube videos opened peoples eyes on the issue of right to carry. Cops need to get used to people carrying.

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    The "officer-on-the-street" is immediately identified by his wearing a police uniform. Not so much
    a plain clothes detective or, in a similar vein, other normally dressed citizens.

    This is problematic. Please read on.

    If I were to walk into my local grocery store to see someone pointing a gun at the cashier...well...it
    is a situation which would, most likely, result in my drawing of my own legally carried weapon. That
    store employee is obviously in great danger of injury and possible death.

    If I were to shoot the felon it would be a bad day for him...but it could be a very bad day for me also!
    There exists the chance that some person, who can be very well-intended, might make a 911 call
    describing ME as:

    "A CRAZY MAN IS KILLING PEOPLE AT THE ***** STORE!! HE'S GOT A GUN!!"

    When the police show up, I will be in serious risk...even if I have put my gun away and am helping
    the man I had to shoot to survive! (I am a retired ER Nurse) They will take no chances and I will
    possibly have the snot beaten out of me as I try to explain the situation while being placed into
    handcuffs. That is, if I am not shot first. I do not plan to resist arrest and I plan to have my gun
    put away, but that is not a guarantee of avoiding injury. I suspect that my old right shoulder fracture
    is going to be awakened as my arms are twisted behind me. These things are not definite...but
    they are possible.

    I have seen a few people clubbed repeatedly (though I knew they were innocent) while being taken
    into custody. I'm aware that my words of attempted explanation may fall upon deaf ears. Then
    again, at the scene, nothing is for certain until the entire area has been put under control.

    No matter that my shooting may have been justified. In my hypothetical tale let's say the original
    gunman had a long list of offenses. I'm still going to be out perhaps $100,000 in attorney's fees
    (there's a bunch of LEECHES!) all to be released from custody weeks or even months later! And
    since the wheels of Justice turn so slowly...would it be unrealistic to expect it to take YEARS?

    Do I have to talk about getting my firearms back? The one's taken from my home subsequent to my
    arrest? There's a Can-of-Worms! More court appearances, more attorney's fees! Years later it just
    might all be cleared up...or maybe not ever!

    If it had been you instead of me...do you wonder if your act of saving the cashier was really worth it?
    Of course the life of that innocent person is worth it...but at the loss of your NORMAL life! Our Law
    Enforcement is not set up to reward the altruistic members of our community who act out of the need
    to "Do the Right Thing"!

    And if the fellow I shot LIVES...! Now we have a REAL CIRCUS!! Even if it is justified, I'll probably
    be back in court defending myself for having taken away his ability to make a living (I purposefully
    left out the word HONEST!).

    I have been privy to have taken courses from one Masaad F. Ayoob and have been advised to make
    my own call to 911, giving MY side of the events and describing myself IN DETAIL. Prior to that you
    should call for an Ambulance and see to first aid for anyone else present who may have some sort of
    injury.

    But friends...it's going to cost you...huge sums of money, time and general grief.

    Even if it was the right thing to do.

    Grim
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