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This is a discussion on Shelters within the General Talk forums, part of the General Discussion category; Originally Posted by Denton Yeah, and most people do not have the cash to do such things, no matter how old they are. I would ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denton View Post
    Yeah, and most people do not have the cash to do such things, no matter how old they are. I would dare say most people who pass these ideas around do not have such a thing, nor are they going to have such a thing.

    For those of us who do not have such things and probably will not have such things, more rudimentary means are more likely our ways.
    For beginning, ideas can be found in Participating In Nature by Thomas J. Elpel. There are plenty of books with plenty of ideas and instructions. Matter of fact, it'd be a good idea to buy those books as you can. Such instruction manuals will come in handy if the day comes when the poo hits the fan.
    I actually have another topic about what books I could get from a store that will help me with survival and knowing how to do certain skills! Also, you will get bored, so reading will become a good way to spend time.

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    Yup. Saw that. Saw it was ironically placed in the forum where recommended reading is posted!

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    I wonder what would actually be cheaper assuming you already dug the hole.

    1, Buying a cargo container and then paying for:
    a, delivery
    b, placement, do you need to rent a tractor, crane etc.
    c, Structural improvements to keep it viable underground

    2, Buying cinderblock, concrete mix and rebar and building your own.

    Anybody know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cannon View Post
    I wonder what would actually be cheaper assuming you already dug the hole.
    1, Buying a cargo container and then paying for:
    a, delivery
    b, placement, do you need to rent a tractor, crane etc.
    c, Structural improvements to keep it viable underground
    2, Buying cinderblock, concrete mix and rebar and building your own.
    Anybody know?
    I know zilch about prices but I'd certainly look into building my own shelter. I mean, a container being crane-lifted into a big hole back in our garden might attract a lot of nosey eyeballs.
    Wartime dugout-type shelters were pretty tough and I should think all we'd need to do is dig a hole and roof it with corrugated iron and wooden beams or sandbags like this guy, and he's even got a trench system..


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    Some guy near me builds these. Seriously looking at one. Cheap and durable as hell, stops small arms fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nadja View Post
    AquaHull is very right on this. Shipping containers can be buried, but must have a structual roof made of re enforced concrete over the top. Otherwise the weight of the dirt will collapse the box down on whoever or whatever is inside. Also, conex shipping boxes are pretty much a faraday cage in their own right, as they are usually all steel.
    As Mythbusters found out to their chagrin a few years ago while trying to bury a container to be used as a bunker, many containers now have fiberglass roofs, making them even less suitable for burying.

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    Depends how deep the container is buried, I should imagine a foot of earth on the roof woudn't collapse it.
    As for Mythbusters I never saw their show about it but probably wouldn't have watched it anyway because everything they do is sloppy and unscientific so their results are meaningless anyway, they even accidentally sent a cannonball through a family home once, so the show ought to be took off the air before they kill themselves or somebody else.

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    How about an Eco-dome (or any simple Earthbag dome):



    The one in the video can be constructed for a couple thousand dollars (cost varying depending on finish out choices, of course)

    Personally I'm planning an Earthship/EcoDome hybrid. Basically an Earthship with walls made of Earthbags instead of tires.
    Last edited by OKflyboy; 11-13-2012 at 03:07 PM.

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    I want one..

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    I dont think these suckers would collapse under a little dirt

 

 
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