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Obama's Wedding Ring
This is a discussion on Obama's Wedding Ring within the General Talk forums, part of the General Discussion category; ........
Last edited by blaze; 10-17-2012 at 09:15 PM.
Well I knew for sometime he was muslim from the time he started changing things in school such as the no more pledge allegiance to the Flag.
He is Muslim. On top of that he has been telling the big dog in Israel, DONT WORRY we have your back, Israel wants to attack Iran because they have vowed to eliminate Isreal from the face of the earth, and it would only take them 11 days thats from the General of their military. They also say that Israel needs americas permission to do so. Than Iran has gone as far as saying That "We know the U.S. will either start the battle or join the battle at sometime. So we have already dug MASS GRAVES for U.S. Soldiers!!" (Video attached
So know that SHTF over there and getting close (Lets not forget Obfullofit said that "There is no way the U.S. will let Iran have Nuclear weapons) to all out war. Obama is making day light between the U.S. and Isreal? Its not hard to Imagine that he wants Israel destroyed right a long with the rest of them. They have all been fighting over the dome of the rock for years (jews, Christains, and Muslims because its holy to all of them.) So why not let Israel think we have their back than Bail on them So Iran takes them out?
Whats next Sharias Law in America?
Seriously, are you surprised?
Obamanation came out before the election that put Obama in office. Those who read that book knew exactly what we would get.
I just wanna throw this out there before people come at me for my stance on this: I am not an Obama voter. I did not vote for him in the last election and I will not be voting for him in this election. I am a gun-toting Libertarian who has no problem with Mormons, Muslims, and Christians, unless you fall into the extremist end of the spectrum and wanna blow things up or turn my country into a theocracy.
Honestly, I find some of these Obama conspiracy theories to be racially motivated and one of the more embarrassing things to come out of the Conservative side of the table. Liberals could just as easily construct conspiracy theories about Mitt Romney, his liberal roots, his polygamist grandfather, the fact that he's taken an oath to protect the LDS church before the American Constitution.
What if Mitt Romney is trying to take over the world with his magical Mormon underwear?!!?!?!?!?!
snopes.com: Obama's Wedding Ring
I like the conclusion Snopes.com makes about this story. Basically, if Obama were a Muslim and trying to hide that fact, why would he wear something like that so openly?? He knows people are out there watching his every move and accusing him of this stuff. I think the person who put this conspiracy together is grasping at straws. And we have much bigger issues to address as voters.
Last edited by preppermama; 10-12-2012 at 05:51 AM.
I think that the political elections, debates,campaigning, and all should be left political. Not religion, bashing the other guy,etc. I think this country has totall gone to Hell in a hand basket as my grandfather used to say. He always said this country went wrong when people started eating out side and shitting in the house......
Originally Posted by Watercanlady
for the win
Originally Posted by Watercanlady
hes been to arab nations to visir. has not been to isreal. its what the neighbor man says.
moosims hate americans. the karan says not to take christain or jew as friend, rather, kill them.
mooslims may be nice, but they certainly at the end of the day be your friend. dont forget that.
even if you are athiest. you are a problem for them too.
obama needs to go always talking about plans what he can do... why aint it done?
I'm not sure how in the world anyone could make this out to be a case of racism; that one would have to be explained.
As far as Romney and his religion, that has already been a subject of discussion. It is a fair discussion as a man's belief is very important. What do you think is driving force for someone's decision-making process?
Now, as far as Snopes. We know it is not always correct, we know it is bent to the left and we also know that "probably false" for an answer is pretty much meaningless
Finally, the ring. Would it surprise you that he would have a ring proclaiming such a thing? The most beautiful sound to him, as he said over and over, is the Muslim call to prayer. In Indonesia, he registered as a Muslim at both Muslim schools he attended. In an interview with George Stephanopolis, he referred to his Muslim faith. He never misses an opportunity to praise Islam and is on video mocking Christianity.
He, the representative of this nation, has never missed an opportunity to bow to the leaders of Muslim nations. That says more than the ring.
Islam is not a religion. It is a religious/governmental/judicial/military system, and that system is wholly incompatible with our system. As a matter of fact, that system demands the destruction of our system. I find that very important. This is why a man's beliefs are extremely important. Did we need the ring to tell us Obama's beliefs? Nope. This ring deal is nothing more than an "AHA! Gotcha!" thing that changes nothing. If people don't know everything they need to know about Obama, then all the rings and baubles in the world will change nothing.
1. I didn't say THIS conspiracy was racist. Rather that several of the other Obama conspiracies I've seen have had racist undertones to them.
Originally Posted by Denton
2. Regarding Mitt Romney's beliefs, I could care less what religion he comes from. My comments were intended as sarcasm. As a voter, I'm more interested in whether or not the person we elect is a truthful, honest person who genuinely wants the best for our country. I do not believe one’s religion has a huge bearing on that. How many Evangelical Christian leaders have been caught doing naughty things that are in complete opposition to what they are preaching to the masses? LOTS.
You are right in saying that religion matters on some level in elections. Religion is a deciding factor in how many Americans vote. I’m just not one of them.
3. Snopes definitely leans left. So what? I quote Fox News all the time and they are blatantly a right wing media outlet. It doesn’t automatically make them wrong. I only said I agreed with the conclusion on Snopes just based on what I know about how American politicians behave.
Yes, I would be EXTREMELY surprised if Obama were walking around with a Muslim ring in plain sight. I spent 4 years studying political science and the behavior of politicians in college. Politicians who want to be reelected do not deviate outside the fashion norms of Washington DC, especially during an election year. They know they are under intense public scrutiny via the media. Politicians are some of the most narcissistic people out there and they have an intense awareness of how they appear to the public.
4. Islam is most definitely a religion (if you define a religion as the belief in worship of a superhuman power.) Denton, I’m curious why you think Islam is not a religion? Islam is a religion that exists in and of itself and separate from political systems; however, in many parts of the world Islam is incorporated into the government and rule of law. Many people in the Middle East live under a Muslim theocracy. May Muslims outside that region, practice the religion and observe the local rule of law.
5. I totally agree with you that Obama’s actions should speak louder than any sort of ring he is or isn’t wearing. Let his actions speak for themselves.
Last edited by preppermama; 10-12-2012 at 09:21 AM.
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