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Insect repelant for tics

This is a discussion on Insect repelant for tics within the General Talk forums, part of the General Discussion category; Anyone know of a deet free insecticide that works on tics or is deet the only way to go? Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk...

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    Insect repelant for tics

    Anyone know of a deet free insecticide that works on tics or is deet the only way to go?

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    Not that really works. When used correctly Deet is safe. Permethrin the other stuff that is 100% effective is some dangerous stuff, even when use correctly.
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    Duct tape your pant legs, use permethrin and then use a sticky roller to pull the lil' bastards off yor ankles. That is the only 100 percent way to prevent ticks and chiggers.
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    For skin use I've had good results with picaradin

    Permethrin works great and is not very toxic to mammals.

    https://www.nap.edu/read/9274/chapter/6#56

    It is also much more effective that DEET on ticks

    "The Minnesota Insect-Borne Disease Education Council conducted a field test in Jay Cook State Park in northern Minnesota, and found that the permethrin products outperformed the DEET-containing tick repellents. A shoe was sprayed with Duranon (0.5% permethrin). Three weeks later, it was tested against a recently sprayed shoe using Deep Woods Off (35 % DEET). Ticks that made contact with the Duranon-sprayed shoe immediately rolled up and dropped off. Ticks on the soaking-wet DEET saturated shoe continued to crawl unimpaired."

    https://www.lymeneteurope.org/info/d...tick-repellent

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    Very few people use Permethrin correctly. It is not meant to be used on skin . It is very hazardous when used on your body. Treating clothing with it requires time and doing it right very few follow the instruction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty901 View Post
    Very few people use Permethrin correctly. It is not meant to be used on skin . It is very hazardous when used on your body. Treating clothing with it requires time and doing it right very few follow the instruction.
    See links above and references therin. Dried treated clothing transfers very little permethrin to the skin. It is also breaks down quickly by esterases in the skin. It is toxic to fish and aquatic life, and to most insects, including beneficials like honeybees and lady bugs. It works great on hornet and ground bee nests as a spray or powder. Cats are also at risk, dried treated fabric is safe, but the liquid is toxic.

    DEET applied to skin has been shown to permeate skin at a high extent. It also can cause permethrin to permeate skin more readily, sort of acting as a solvent. Areas of skin sprayed with DEET in contact with permethrin treated clothing is where this happens. Studies were done on this for servicemen who used treated BDUs and DEET. Still the amount of exposure did not show significant chronic or acute symptoms. Amounts were measured by taking urine samples and analyzing metabolites.

    Treating clothing is pretty simple. Buy the 0.5% permethrin sold for treating clothes, or concentrate sold at farm supply stores ( 10% and 13.3%). Make sure the concentrates only contain permethrin, then dilute 20:1 and 27:1 , respectively. The concentrates are ~20% as expensive. The farm supply stores sell handy 1-qt sprayers that are graduated in oz. and mL, they also can spray mist or stream (handy for bee nests). Store in cool dark place.

    On a calm/windless day,take 2-3 sets of clean clothes (socks, shirts,pants, coveralls) and hang them on your clothes line. Wear long sleave shirt, pants, and disposable gloves. Spray each garment until fabric is wet, spray cuffs/fly,collar well. Let the clothes dry well. I leave them for 2 days if weather permits. Treatment will last 3-4 weeks or several washings. Having an extra treated set(s) of clothing avoids having to wear soiled garments. Keep cats away from liquid or wet spray.

    You can also make up a dilution of concentrate and dunk the garments in a 5-gal bucket, but this is messy, and will take much longer to dry. Excess can be stored for a spray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Trapper View Post
    See links above and references therin. Dried treated clothing transfers very little permethrin to the skin. It is also breaks down quickly by esterases in the skin. It is toxic to fish and aquatic life, and to most insects, including beneficials like honeybees and lady bugs. It works great on hornet and ground bee nests as a spray or powder. Cats are also at risk, dried treated fabric is safe, but the liquid is toxic.

    DEET applied to skin has been shown to permeate skin at a high extent. It also can cause permethrin to permeate skin more readily, sort of acting as a solvent. Areas of skin sprayed with DEET in contact with permethrin treated clothing is where this happens. Studies were done on this for servicemen who used treated BDUs and DEET. Still the amount of exposure did not show significant chronic or acute symptoms. Amounts were measured by taking urine samples and analyzing metabolites.

    Treating clothing is pretty simple. Buy the 0.5% permethrin sold for treating clothes, or concentrate sold at farm supply stores ( 10% and 13.3%). Make sure the concentrates only contain permethrin, then dilute 20:1 and 27:1 , respectively. The concentrates are ~20% as expensive. The farm supply stores sell handy 1-qt sprayers that are graduated in oz. and mL, they also can spray mist or stream (handy for bee nests). Store in cool dark place.

    On a calm/windless day,take 2-3 sets of clean clothes (socks, shirts,pants, coveralls) and hang them on your clothes line. Wear long sleave shirt, pants, and disposable gloves. Spray each garment until fabric is wet, spray cuffs/fly,collar well. Let the clothes dry well. I leave them for 2 days if weather permits. Treatment will last 3-4 weeks or several washings. Having an extra treated set(s) of clothing avoids having to wear soiled garments. Keep cats away from liquid or wet spray.

    You can also make up a dilution of concentrate and dunk the garments in a 5-gal bucket, but this is messy, and will take much longer to dry. Excess can be stored for a spray.
    I have spent many hours training on proper use of Permethrin. The danger of using it wrong. I have At many times depended on it to protect against things far worst than any tick.
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    After reading this Obama said I am on it.

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    Smitty101, Is Permethrin dangerous if your treated clothes get wet ?

    Worse than a Tick? that must be a Demonrat

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    Permethrin works-- mostly.
    I have used it for years-- follow directions--, but have gotten a tick
    Think it is the best, but check yourself each day.

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    Dont put any dog flea colllars around your ankles. The old Veternarian from Fort Hood said even though it sounds reasonable it gives folks a sore throat.

 

 

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