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    "The deadliest conflict in human history began exactly 80 years ago. On Sept. 1, 1939, Nazi Germany invaded Poland. Britain and France came to Poland’s defense, and suddenly World War II was underway. Estimates of civilian and military deaths in the war go as high as 85 million."

    Think about what the world today would look like had the US not stepped in.
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    Approximately 17 million Americans served in the military during WW2. Over 1 million were killed or wounded. The US amassed the greatest fighting force ever seen in the world.

    I've neither read nor heard of young men back in 1941 being confused about which bathroom to use, or if they needed a safe place to cuddle a puppy because someone called them a name.

    But I am not a military historian so @rice paddy daddy please chime in!

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    Imagine if Germany would have waited 5 years and developed the weapons they had designed near the end. Biplanes fighting jets and they would have had nukes. Would be a total different world then we have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty901 View Post
    .................. Think about what the world today would look like had the US not stepped in.
    I would rather not think about it, . . . as we would probably be speaking German or Japanese, . . . and I am not comfortable with either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippy View Post
    Approximately 17 million Americans served in the military during WW2. Over 1 million were killed or wounded. The US amassed the greatest fighting force ever seen in the world.

    I've neither read nor heard of young men back in 1941 being confused about which bathroom to use, or if they needed a safe place to cuddle a puppy because someone called them a name.

    But I am not a military historian so @rice paddy daddy please chime in!
    No safe places or IBGTL#@%#&# specific bathrooms in Normandy? The hell you say!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippy View Post
    Approximately 17 million Americans served in the military during WW2. Over 1 million were killed or wounded. The US amassed the greatest fighting force ever seen in the world.

    I've neither read nor heard of young men back in 1941 being confused about which bathroom to use, or if they needed a safe place to cuddle a puppy because someone called them a name.

    But I am not a military historian so @rice paddy daddy please chime in!
    Actually, there were a LOT of desertions.
    Also, Eisenhower used to fume at the number of USGI black market profiteers at work in places like Paris. He even mentioned this in his memoirs. "Crusade In Europe." When the number of Infantry riflemen got dangerously low, he issued orders for these rear echelon troops to be combed thru and any excess to be sent to the front line.
    A lot of field grade and higher officers were sacked for being basically incompetent.

    The most famous deserter was Pvt Eddie Slovick. He was the only one executed for it.

    Popular history portrays the "greatest generation" as all being selfless heroes. But they were just regular people with all the flaws of regular people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rice paddy daddy View Post
    Actually, there were a LOT of desertions.
    Also, Eisenhower used to fume at the number of USGI black market profiteers at work in places like Paris. He even mentioned this in his memoirs. "Crusade In Europe." When the number of Infantry riflemen got dangerously low, he issued orders for these rear echelon troops to be combed thru and any excess to be sent to the front line.
    A lot of field grade and higher officers were sacked for being basically incompetent.

    The most famous deserter was Pvt Eddie Slovick. He was the only one executed for it.

    Popular history portrays the "greatest generation" as all being selfless heroes. But they were just regular people with all the flaws of regular people.

    Yes, of course the "Greatest Generation" had it's bad seeds and malcontents, as every generation does. But, looked at in it's entirety, I would say that Generation of the Great Depression and WWII had more grit and determination then anything I have seen in the last 30 years at least. Given the same circumstances as the 30's and 40's does anyone really think today's generation would rise to anywhere near the same level as the "Greatest Generation"? I am betting not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prepared One View Post
    Yes, of course the "Greatest Generation" had it's bad seeds and malcontents, as every generation does. But, looked at in it's entirety, I would say that Generation of the Great Depression and WWII more grit and determination then anything I have seen in the last 30 years at least. Given the same circumstances as the 30's and 40's does anyone really think today's generation would rise to anywhere near the same level as the "Greatest Generation"? I am betting not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty901 View Post
    "The deadliest conflict in human history began exactly 80 years ago. On Sept. 1, 1939, Nazi Germany invaded Poland. Britain and France came to Poland’s defense, and suddenly World War II was underway. Estimates of civilian and military deaths in the war go as high as 85 million."

    Think about what the world today would look like had the US not stepped in.
    What most folks don't understand is that France by her inaction in not invading Eastern Germany condemned Poland to fight the German Army all by herself.

    History would have been much different if France had lived up to her pledge to Poland.
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