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This is a discussion on Hong Kong being Invaded within the General Talk forums, part of the General Discussion category; Originally Posted by Demitri.14 No, what I am saying is: Most of us feel ANTIFA is in the wrong for protesting and using violence to ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demitri.14 View Post
    No, what I am saying is: Most of us feel ANTIFA is in the wrong for protesting and using violence to advance their agenda, but it is OK in Hong Kong to act the same way.
    Okay, so sorry to belabor the point, but it's objectively moral for Hong Kong to protest? If that's what you mean, I agree. But I don't think it's at all fair to say they're "acting the same way" as antifa.
    Its always been a matter of who is the Patriot and who is the Terrorist. It depends which side of the fence you are on.
    That's too blurry to say it all depends on your perspective or, as you say, "which side of the fence you're on". There's certain truths that don't change. Moral truth comes from God and never changes no matter which side of the fence you're on, and one moral truth is that China is a communist government and Communism is godless and is probably the greatest evil to have come out of the last century.

    I don't know what ANTIFA is trying to do, they are not real clear on their motives except to be against Trump.
    agreed. They're very confused. Not sure they really know either. Too much CNN and public school perhaps.

    As Far as losing freedom, maybe it Would be better to have them ripped off, then at least more people would be aware of what is happening and be inclined to do something about it.
    Well, at this point perhaps we don't have a choice because it's too late for us. We'll suffer no doubt.


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    I am glad Obama, Hillary, Bernie, or any other democrat is not president.
    ANY ONE of them would "resettle" a few million Hong Kong refugees here in the States.
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    What would China be like with out the US market place or the US and it’s allies? I think they are smarter than that in knowing war with the US leads them to a consumerless world and how will they sustain that?


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    It seems we are headed for war with ChiCom, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rice paddy daddy View Post
    I am glad Obama, Hillary, Bernie, or any other democrat is not president.
    ANY ONE of them would "resettle" a few million Hong Kong refugees here in the States.
    I would rather resettle the residents of Hong Kong than the residents of Guatemala City or San Salvador. At least the residents of Hong Kong understand capitalism and want freedom.
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    This makes no sense to me, for antifa promotes gun control, first amendment limits on free speech, governance of the entire economy (socialism) so how again do they feel they are losing their freedom to a tyrannical government when that is the government they seek? Someone seems mixed up.


    Quote Originally Posted by Demitri.14 View Post
    I think that a lot of the ANTIFA crowd also feel they are losing their freedom and being oppressed by a tyrannical Govt.

    Not so different with all the attacks on the 2nd, 4th and 5th amendments that are happening. At what point are the people that want to preserve our constitution, labeled as Terrorist and Violent Protestors ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stowlin View Post
    What would China be like with out the US market place or the US and it’s allies? I think they are smarter than that in knowing war with the US leads them to a consumerless world and how will they sustain that?
    China is much more long-term in thinking than we are. At best, we look ten years down the road. They've been planning since Nixon opened the door for them.

    What would be catastrophic to us is a speedbump to supremacy to the rulers of China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denton View Post
    China is much more long-term in thinking than we are. At best, we look ten years down the road. They've been planning since Nixon opened the door for them.

    What would be catastrophic to us is a speedbump to supremacy to the rulers of China.
    I think economics has little to do with China's long term thinking with regards to the U.S. I am not sure who is the more cunning, Xi or Putin, but military cooperation between the two should warrant a cautious view. China has a plan, and so does Putin.
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    Do you really think those plans don’t include shipping cheap crap to an open market in such abundance it can feed its masses and keep them busy?


    Quote Originally Posted by Denton View Post
    China is much more long-term in thinking than we are. At best, we look ten years down the road. They've been planning since Nixon opened the door for them.

    What would be catastrophic to us is a speedbump to supremacy to the rulers of China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stowlin View Post
    Do you really think those plans don’t include shipping cheap crap to an open market in such abundance it can feed its masses and keep them busy?
    Sure, but who will be in the negotiation seat once this government is taken down?
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    So they help the progressive left toss the US into a pre election recession the media tells everyone is a trump depression and they get to arrange a trade deal with uncle Joe who’s son they already gave a billion dollar contract to.


    Quote Originally Posted by Denton View Post
    Sure, but who will be in the negotiation seat once this government is taken down?
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