I claim the hawgrider defense. I thought it was a statement too.
I shall now go flog myself as penance.
(Wonder if hippie chick from disqus is around...)
I claim the hawgrider defense. I thought it was a statement too.
I shall now go flog myself as penance.
(Wonder if hippie chick from disqus is around...)
Still increasing my stores in several areas .... call it what you want, I call it being aware.
I'll offer these comments in response.
When you share prepping ideas, you are bound to get in discussions abut the "Why". Remember it is an election year for a country in distress. Its expected.
Politics is under a titled section .... as is prophesy. Instead of clicking on active topics, one can choose his/her area of interest.
Many of us here have discussed and shared prepping ideas as well debated BOB's for a while .... Now we just do it.
Me? Still watching.
But keep in mind this is not a complaint... it is a response to an inquiry from an administrator regarding decreasing site visitation. I learned long ago that if it is not my sandbox, that I have two choices... stay & play by their rules or leave. I personally love the prepping discussions here & ignore the discussions that don't appeal to me. My comments are solely to maybe explain why some folks might stay away. Just my opinion and thought the admin here might appreciate it coming from a new member. If you note, I'm not the only poster here stating this. But as I said, this is their sandbox and they can operate this site however they wish.
Please continue to watch.
If I were curious about unicorns, tree hugging and such, I'd expect the political tempo of those sites to be left leaning and Trump hating. Just kind of the way things are within certain communities. Generally speaking, of course :P
Being aware of what is happening is a major part of prepping. Hiding our heads in the sand would do no good. Current events raise the likely hood of civil unrest. The ability to defend your self and others is a big part of prepping it you see the possibility of civil unrest coming. Even while you pray it never comes to that.
I admit that I feel a sense of optimism that I haven't felt in a while, mostly because I believe our 2A rights won't be under attack for the next fir years. At least not by president and congress but this hasn't changed what I do it just feels better while I go about my day. I also don't have a lot of faith that much will change in the big political picture so time to carry on
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I am not here to "convert" anybody to being a prepper. Most of those who pay attention to where our society is going are already here. Those who are not? Oh well.. (And that is not a political statement. I do not give a crap about who you voted for.)
I'm home from work, now, and can respond on my laptop.
When I said someone didn't read the article to which I linked, I was talking to you. Take the time to read the article so that you can understand what I was really asking.
You've moderated sites, you say. That being the case, you know you can click the active topics, or you can click the "What's New" button, or you can simply go to whatever sub forum interests you. Also, you can add your own knowledge or you can ask questions, yourself.
The conversation flow is up to the membership. Simple as that. We are not like other boards where the conversations are controlled, suppressed or deleted. Want to steer the conversation? Start an interesting thread.
Oh, and as a moderated on many forums, you've been around long enough to know how irritating it is when people add to a thread without responding to the actual topic, which in this case, was the link to an article.
I don't know that Trump being elected has given me a warm and fuzzy feeling and I am not sure why it would anyone. The players change but the game remains the same. Let's remember the man has not taken the big chair yet. As Cuban said, he has not set foot on the court. I for one, look around the world stage and see the same issues and consider this Trump election, if anything, a reprieve at best and at worst.........well, let's just say I will keep prepping. I will leave the unicorn farts and rainbows to the "heads in the sand" crowd.
As to the politics of prepping, I believe the political "shit storms" of the world will have a far greater impact on my survivability long term, and how I prepare for those circumstances, as opposed to a short term local event. So, I will continue to be ever vigilant, ever watchful, in regards to the world geopolitical dynamics. Eventually, one way or another, that's where the real shit storm will come from. At least then, when all hell breaks loose and goes sideways, I won't have that "What the f--- just happened" look on my face.
Anybody heard from Auntie?
To answer specifically the opening question.
Most people can't see more than a few days ahead. What they saw was possibly a threat and and now it's over. Now nothing bad can happen. Bad things happen to other people, not to me so I'm safe now. These same people are reactive not proactive. These are the same people who wait until the day before a hurricane hits to buy supplies.
Prepping is a mindset. You can't change that. Most of us here are proactive and don't want to be part of the masses flooding the stores when things get ugly for whatever reason.
Most people that pop in here see an imminent threat. They want a way to be fully prepared in a couple of days. When that threat passes they say never mind, guess I was wrong. They don't come back. They will be back when another threat is real close then go away again when it passes.
You see the same thing on many firearm related sites. New people show up with specific firearm related questions and only want to discuss on topic subjects, while the regulars spend a lot of time discussing politics or the news or whatever. The developing and changing topics will always spark more conversation than the fact based topics that have been discussed for years on end and don't change much.
I think its just fine. If the band wagon jumpers want off ill be watching kijiji ebay and garage sales to capitalize on their most likely unused tools and gear that they want to offload so they can save for their next all inclusive.....
To each their own. I will never stop making preparations as I guess most other regulars around here are the same. I am not surprised that a lot of folks have taken a breather or may have quite entirely with Trump becoming POTUS. People are without a doubt lazy creatures, as I am at times around things as well. Over-confidence by folks I would wager by a fair number which I take as a good number of folks are still ignorant of what is truly going on in our nation and the world regardless who is in power.
Redneck ! :vs_smirk:
First, I personally know a few folk on the forum and @Inor is one of them. I will assure you, he would have no problemo calling you a snowflake to your face and then explaining to you why he did it and you would not only agree you would chuckle it off as educational banter between two men.
It sounds like you have a nice setup, you seem very smart and well read/informed but damn man, you get worked up over the smallest stuff! Laugh a little! :vs_laugh:
Disclaimer: The quoted post is as far as I got on this thread and I don't really feel like reading it any further. One reason for the decline might be because of the holidays. I know our family has been pretty busy. Heck, Wednesday I was cutting, splitting, moving and stacking firewood from 0830 to 9:30 at night. Talk about being tired and sore.
Sure there is the occasional harsh comment here but it is pretty rare.
With the new year comes new co-pays for medical and more expensive power bills due to obama's coal kill and medigap payments that will TRIPLE!.
its hard enough keeping our heads above water these days.we really don't have the funds to prep anymore.
As I have said many times, my primary reason for prepping long before it had a name, was for severe winter storms.
After being an almost victim of the 1978 blizzard, I started on the journey.
Then, with slick willy elected and the change in internal politics to the left,
more prepping in a different direction but concurrent with the first.
Today, the goals have been achieved in regards to the critical items, enhancement is the continuing activity.
Weekly, I add food items or first aid items.
If people think everything now is OK, they are setting themselves up for a disaster.
There are some "trend prepper's", they will drop out after awhile, when becoming bored.
Those who have enough insight and are smart enough to evaluate all conditions will carry on.
The left is not done with opposing Donald, I think next year we might see riots funded by soros on the streets for just about anything he does.
I think O'thigger will be agitating the left's minions also, like his telling the military to question his orders, that is preaching anarchy, POS.
I have no concerns over the ebb and flow of board participation. People come and people go. The next big event will cause people to flock to prepper and survival forums. Some will stay, while others will not. Mentioning this forum in the paragraph as merely a way to the article, which had many points worthy of discussion.
Why do we seem to talk about current events so much? Simple. We've talked about fire starting, crop growing, chicken raising, bullet launching, shelter building, food canning, etc., over and again. Current events is something that happens all the time, giving us something new to discuss until someone raises a question or offers information related to prepping.
It's OK that you don't want to bother with the chit-chat. I try my best to stay out of the chit-chat at work. I'm not going to tell others not to do it when on break, though. That's their way of enjoying human contact and who am I to be the wet blanket?
[QUOTE=Sonya;865178]Really? Wow. This forum doesn't seem hateful at all to me. Folks seem pretty darn nice, in fact much much nicer than some mixed forums or other survival type forums. I also sometimes post on true crime related forums which attract a lot of soccer mom types and the level of hate/vitriol was getting to be too much, it started effecting posters across all threads because people were so politically divided they couldn't stand each other.
Sure there is the occasional harsh comment here but it is pretty rare.[/QUOTE]
Ain't that the darn truth! Those soccer Mom's are what's wrong with this Country, I know ... my wife was one of them for 10 years, through two boys.
Harsh? Naw ... I'm nice most of the time (A Watchman gleems as he feels that infamous crooked grin start to appear)
I will be able to ramp up my "stocks" now that all the crazies have the wool pulled back over their eyes. I prefer that people do not buy in panic because it hurts my wallet.
My focus is mainly on food, medical supplies and medicine since the population of the world is constantly growing. The price of food will gradually increase and epidemics, natural disasters, storms ect will never stop occurring. People are foolish to think that others will always be able to help them out a bind.
Shame on those that have children, and do not store extra supplies in case of emergency.
Today I went out and bought lots of canned pears, pineapple, mandarin oranges, corn, chili, mini raviolis, potato flakes for emergency storage. Also picked up 48 bottles of water.
Recently here in the Pacific Northwest we had a wind storm that was supposed to come through my area. I went to the store to see what was left the day before the storm was due. I went to three large stores and none of them had bottled water. The only bottled water left was that flavored kind and it was on the very top part of the shelf at the back. A lady couldn't reach it so I went over and pulled it off for her. Same lady asked me what I was going to do for water, and I replied "I'll just drink this Gatorade".
If you have waited until the last day of a major storm to make sure you have potable drinking water available what makes you think you could survive worse? Do you think this thought ran through the minds of people in this pickle? I would guess a small fraction would learn from the mistake and store enough in the future. Not only this but how many people are thinking about what they will do if they must flee their home because of a massive fire like what happened in Canada not a while back? Who have food, water and supplies in their car? It's all very alarming, the stupidity of the human race.
My wife just nudged me the other day, and reminded me that we need to restock some of the wares to get ready for winter again.
We're pretty well off about it, but she likes extra. Makes her feel better. I'm happy to comply.
I don't see the Trump tangent except perhaps election season meaning all the people campaigning online trying to win prepper votes have left now that their government is in, in the house, senate and presidents office. Anti Dem Government sorts may not be as keen to shout down their own people.
While the world is pretty sketchy with Syria, we will see if after Jan 20th a detente with Russia. It is sketchy though as Russia and Nato are sort of fighting right now in conventional war in Syria, probably one of the hotest wars since WWII between NATO and Russia. We are talking 8 SOF dying in one week, not sure how common that was in AF or Iraq for SOF to die in those numbers weekly. Just keeping it in perspective, more people have died in Syria than like US deaths during WWI. over 250,000 people. More people are displaced than tons of other conflicts we are talking Millions of people displaced. It is a big big big war, that has been going on for half a decade now.
I think we need to wait to see how many jobs are actually netted. You know you may hear news about 10000 new jobs but that needs to be balanced with the 110000 that are lost over that same period. Gross new jobs is not the measure of job gains, you need to do new jobs - lost jobs.
However, I think we will see good things in the US with Trump, I think we will see more cooperation between Russia and the US as long as Turkey doesn't pull the US into an actual war. We need to wait to see what Turkey actually has to gain from a war with Syria.
As for preppers leaving your site, no idea. I was banned for 8 or 9 months, I had various government agencies monitoring me, which are less likely to be actively monitoring me these days. However, there will still be those that will pop up whenever I post.
Thankfully in the others sites I've been active with I havn't had the same sort of trolling as I had during the days when I was under open government surveillance, that is not to say the take down operation has ended, I have the feeling they have met a bunch of their goals, so lost interest due to other priorities.
None the less. Usage figures probably just have to do with other priorities. The surge in interest in prepping was likely largely due to popular shows such as doomsdaypreppers.
Personally I've been busy with school and work. I was travelling a chunk of the period I was banned, and my free time is taken up with nightclubs' bouncing these days.
My studies are ending soon though, I may have only 4 months left before I am done, and after that I may be moving and starting relatively fresh, I dont have enough room for my old stuff let alone new stuff. I also feel pretty confident in what I do have, not much room for anything new at this point. I also cant be carrying stuff with me for a chunk of time due to work because there are equipment restrictions while working.
Likewise I am not living rough like I am use to because I was given free housing. I will likely be loosing my properties in the north too because I dont have work up there so I can be up there and my resources are stretched with the rigours of leaving school and not having full time work at this time, and likely moving within the next 4 months.
I have been reading occasional articles but I usually, like right now, get the thought that I will be jumped as soon as I post because the "gang" want to control the board, maybe some people recognize the danger of posting on here because there are some people who will use posts, and that the government may use anything anyone posts, and that they arn't secret posts, they are trackable posts.
I think any "REAL" prepping isn't going to see something like a new pres as a world saver. I think we will need to wait and see what happens in a Trump admin, what direction his gov takes to government programs, what his budget looks like. I think it is clear he will as he can get engaged in a bunch of infrastructure projects, and either maintain or grow the US military, but these are all things we will have to see how he interact with congress to get a budget going. I think his first budget will help.
I think it may make sense that people who have been dissatisfied with Dem government as stopping prepping now that the Republicans have government.
I don't think that is anything, those people were never really preppers to begin with, those are more anti-government types, preppers are people who plan for disasters not overthrow of governments.
I think Trump is putting together a very capable execution team. How that translates into the environment Americans are going to be in is anyones guess. I think it will good to see what the budget provides for.
I am definitely optimistic that Americans will see some awsome new potentials, particularly if they are business people in America looking to market their wares to Americans.
That said I need to travel light these days, and my purse strings are pretty tight. I think the homebees will have more interest in traditional prepping. I just cant do it these days due to other priorities and not being able to take anything with me at the drop of a hat.
I am pretty much getting ready to live out of a bag, not live in a bunker.
I do have to say I tried bulk buying quinoa and buckwheat and few other things. I've opted to prep non-gluten base foods, such as them, and lentils and rice. I am finding it to be a new move I have taken with direction to my meager food stockpiling. However I have never really stocked more than a few months supplies because there has never been a scenario I would be in requiring it.
It doesnt make sense to have much more than I can carry. If I run out others definitely will already be raiding houses in their local neighbourhood by that point. Anything that goes on for more than a month will likely require me to leave my current location.
Member numbers may pick up around budget time.
Welcome back Will2! We all missed you very much. Nice to see you haven't changed.
I noticed that you wrote that the government agencies that were monitoring you have stopped? Do not let your guard down, my sources tell me that they are still monitoring you and doing it 25-7.
How do I know this you ask? Well remember that saliva sample you sent to 23AndMe? Now they have your DNA.
Welcome back, @Will2 , be nice now.
I woke up and sat town to read the forums and said...holy shit it's Will2....thought he had got scooped up by some agency...welcome back!
First we don't prep. Like Sas, we try and get ready for any eventuality.
Second, that said, nothing has really changed (yet). Winter is just making it's first inroads into where we live.
The economy has yet to rebound (dow jones not withstanding)..
The murder rate in the city 30 miles south of us is headed for a record not set in more than a decade.
The price of basic goods (food and such) still haven't gone down (we're still paying over $4 per pound for beef (heck of a note that Spam is the cheapest meat around).
As for the SHTF and other doom events that some prep for, I doubt if we'll ever see such an event in our lifetimes. Maybe a local event,but not on the scale some have predicted.
Just checked and The Tractor Supply has whole corn in 50 pound bags for about 9 dollars.