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If there is an EMP how long do you think stores supplies would last in cities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket View Post
    That means I cannot type.
    I'd be attracted to you but I think e might be related.
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    Here is a genuine question - how the hell do you make ice after all the power is gone? I mean I'd come across a GenSet and freezer I am sure - but any way to rough it? Or just wait til winter?

    I might want to enjoy a White Russian (El Duderino) after the violence stops at SHTF+90

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherSOFSurvivor View Post
    Here is a genuine question - how the hell do you make ice after all the power is gone? I mean I'd come across a GenSet and freezer I am sure - but any way to rough it? Or just wait til winter?

    I might want to enjoy a White Russian (El Duderino) after the violence stops at SHTF+90

    Prior to refrigeration here in NE, there were ice houses, every winter men would saw huge blocks of ice from the lakes,

    two feet thick, and store them in ice houses, huge barn like structures,, stacked ice would form a cube 100'x100'x50' (apx)high covered in straw.

    The ice houses were on the lakes and they floated the blocks to the conveyor.

    I am old enough to remember my grandparents having an icebox, and us kids stealing chips of ice from the delivery guy(late 40's- early 50's)..

    My parents were more advanced, we had a GE Monitor refrigerator, which we still called an ice box,

    even today I have a random Freudian slip, and call it an ice box, kid gives me a strange look when I do.

    I have seen two of those ice houses, IIRC, they were as big as a super wally world.

    There was one that was converted to ammonia cooled, it had insulation made of cork two feet thick.

    It was over a 100 years old when accidently burned 10 years ago, killing six firemen in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherSOFSurvivor View Post
    Here is a genuine question - how the hell do you make ice after all the power is gone? I mean I'd come across a GenSet and freezer I am sure - but any way to rough it? Or just wait til winter?

    I might want to enjoy a White Russian (El Duderino) after the violence stops at SHTF+90
    Propane gas refrigerator.

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    Thanks for the answers guys, I inferred that a lot of the ice people enjoyed was got in the winter - building an ice house is beyond my means at this time anyway.

    And, duh - I'm stupid - should've thought gas powered...

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    At the very least, and in response to the OP.... go out and buy 4 or 5 cases of cheap ramen noodles. Not very healthy, but it will keep the hunger pangs down until you can figure out a way OUT of the Urban environment. The food will be completely gone in the stores within 72 hours...and the stores that 'were' closes will have been pillaged.

    After an EMP....FEMA ain't coming, and especially not to urban areas.
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    If you have access to ammonia and calcium chloride you can setup a solar ice machine http://free-energy-info.net46.net/P13.pdf

    There are other options utilizing ammonia nitrate but I haven't tested or seen those in person. I wouldn't expect store supplies to last longer than 2 days in the event of an EMP. They can handle 4 or 5 days in a regular disaster before the shelves are bare, but in an EMP event, there will be panic buying/looting.

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    If there was an EMP I suspect the police or other local authorities would shut the stores down and place guards within a few hours in an effort to ration the little remaining food. Also if there is an EMP and most cars stopped running I would not be surprised if the local police already have orders to confiscate any running vehicles in an effort to allow them to continue policing the area. If most cars don't run and yours does I'd be very careful about driving it around town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ND_ponyexpress_ View Post
    how are the stores going to sell anything if their registers won't work? all the water runs on electric pumps... I tell my brother, you likely have 2 days to get where you need to be before the sheeple figure out the Man isn't going to come save them... people can only live 3 days without water... you do the math!
    Water won't be an issue, there a swimming pools, creeks and rivers in every major population center. The quality of the water will be irrelevant to thirsty people.

    I have seen shelves stripped in a natural disaster, they took all the bread; the milk, the eggs, the pizza, and left behind all the pasta and tinned food and rice. In other words all the stuff anyone with half a brain would go for first. I have also gone shopping during a blackout, in the middle of the day. Even at noon supermarkets are dark (no windows) and people were escorted one by one with staff holding torches. If the power is out forget about large supermarkets. Their electronic doors wouldn't even open and the management will no doubt keep them closed for health and safety reasons. Your best bet would be a small 711 type store with greedy Indian staff. Offer them a decent cash incentive and you will get the red-carpet treatment. Providing they have been able to get the electronic doors open. If not try the back door. I'd make it a top priority once I cleared the city limits. You can never have too much food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inceptor View Post
    Purdy??? Not a word I'm likely to use.
    Sure it is...as in..."Hey Slippy, look over yonder, they's a gaggle of muslimes that got they damn heads all blowed up"...

    Slippy looks over yonder and says; "PURDY!"
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