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This is a discussion on Huge explosion in Beruit port. within the General Prepper and Survival Talk forums, part of the Survivalist, Prepper, Bushcrafter, Forest Rangers category; Originally Posted by Redneck So what would make that shockwave look like that? Humidity or being on the water? Doesn't seem normal to me but ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck View Post
    So what would make that shockwave look like that? Humidity or being on the water? Doesn't seem normal to me but I'm certainly no expert.
    Compression of the air, what you are seeing is the water in the compressed air.

    Being on the ocean raises the normal water content of the surrounding air.
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    Largest non-nuclear explosion was in Texas city when a ship carrying ammonia nitrate exploded.

    https://www.britannica.com/event/Tex...losion-of-1947
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Trapper View Post
    This might not be the cause but might account for the size of the blast:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...163620414.html

    "18:08 GMT - Ammonium nitrate stored in the port: Interior Minister

    The Lebanese Interior Minister has said that ammonium nitrate was stored in the port, which is what caused the explosion, local media reported.

    He said Lebanese customs should be asked about why it was there.

    Lebanon-based broadcaster Mayadeen cited the country's customs director saying tonnes of nitrate exploded."
    If that was 100% Ammonium nitrate, yeah it would do it with about 30 to 50 tons of it.

    Why would that much be stored there in the first place, transhipment to Iran for explosives?

    That sure as hell was not ANFO with that post det cloud.
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    This report has a couple of twitter videos that show the blast. Holy crap...

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/explos...capital-beirut
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOCOM42 View Post
    If that was 100% Ammonium nitrate, yeah it would do it with about 30 to 50 tons of it.

    Why would that much be stored there in the first place, transhipment to Iran for explosives?

    That sure as hell was not ANFO with that post det cloud.
    Ammonium nitrate goes better with a fuel.

    The USDA had a 1950s pamphlet for farmers who wanted to remove stones/stumps, from pastures/fields. The pamphlet said a mixture of the nitrate and diesel/kero was "most bang for the buck". It needed a primary charge to get things going......... I'm not giving out nor advocating explosive recipe's here. This was an old USDA hard copy in a University Library, I'm sure it was removed after OK city.

    Maybe, after primary explosion accidental or planned, the nitrate got together with the benzene mentioned stored at the same port? That would do it.

    I bet Iran is banned from import of explosive precursors from some countries, but the Chi-Coms and others don't give a damm. Beruit is also a center of importing missiles/explosives for Hezbollah, those could have started the show?

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    Some more good footage, from several vantage points.

    Seems to be a fire/small explosion, then the big bang. Some cameras quite distant filming, seem to be knocked over from the shock wave.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...ebanon-capital

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piratesailor View Post
    Largest non-nuclear explosion was in Texas city when a ship carrying ammonia nitrate exploded.

    https://www.britannica.com/event/Tex...losion-of-1947
    That was a blast!!! Studied that one about 40 years ago.

    When they were getting ready to test the first atom bomb, they set up a site with a thousand tons of TNT? and set it off.

    They were calibrating their instruments to a known quantity of explosives, at a known distance,

    thus they could then get a better estimate of the nuke detonation yield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOCOM42 View Post
    That was a blast!!! Studied that one about 40 years ago.

    When they were getting ready to test the first atom bomb, they set up a site with a thousand tons of TNT? and set it off.

    They were calibrating their instruments to a known quantity of explosives, at a known distance,

    thus they could then get a better estimate of the nuke detonation.
    What do you think the well hardened structure right next to the blast is/was?

    It seems undamaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Trapper View Post
    What do you think the well hardened structure right next to the blast is/was?

    It seems undamaged.
    If you are referring to the Beirut blast, those were concrete grain silos.

    They deflected and directed much of the blast, but they will have to come down, how much grain was lost?

    Lots of Pita's down the drain and the people who would have eaten them.

    I think they will be finding a lot of body parts spread out over a mile.

    Some will never be found, evaporated instantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOCOM42 View Post
    Compression of the air, what you are seeing is the water in the compressed air.

    Being on the ocean raises the normal water content of the surrounding air.
    @Redneck , there is a scene in the Victory At Sea series, British commando raids on Norway.

    The scene shows a Brit pushing the plunger down on a 100 cap blasting machine,

    the building about a 100 yards away goes up and you can see the supersonic wave come out and it slaps the commando real good.

    I have seen hundreds of those waves as an FO, not a big as the Beirut blast but of the same form.

    Close enough to the blast and that wave itself can kill you.
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