Quote Originally Posted by tirnan View Post
That is the part they never understood, because they place low value on their freedoms (or see them as a hinderance), they place no value on ours. I fought for their right to express stupidity, but I don't have to listen to it. That is another nuance they never seem to understand.

"I would gladly give up (and I think most other people would too) freedom to achieve a safer, more inclusive society.
Besides, in a true communist or socialist society, why would one need to prep for anything?"


I fear the next generation may actually buy into this. Centralized socialist education leads to a generation that will give up their freedoms for some crumbs of "social justice". I just hope and pray that we can somehow insert ideals like accountability, responsibility, and respect for people and property back into the things young people learn. If they learned to respect others and create opportunities, they would do more good than anything they are doing now.

The second sentence is self fulfilling prophecy. Those dumb enough to wait for socialism to save them, deserve the "rescue" they get. Read about the Socialist response in Wuhan to the COVID outbreak to see how they value the individual contributor.

Sorry for reviving the topic. I just found that idea to be intellectually repugnant.
In a way, she is correct.

The old Soviet Union made the cost of everything real low.

The issue with that is there was no incentive to produce much. Hence even though the cost of a loaf of bread was dirt cheap, there were still very long lines to get basics like bread as no one had the incentive to work hard so little was produced.

One thing she failed to mention, and this has happened to all totalitarian regimes, the first thing they do is eliminate all opposition. Mass extermination to be more precise. I don't know if y'all are familiar with Deagel but they forecast for the intelligence services. The quote below is from January. The link to this is below the quote.

Few people know of this website and even more claim the organization doesn’t legitimately exist at all. Despite the overwhelming suppression of its significance, WikiLeaks documents have revealed it was legitimately used as reference material in a Stratfor report on the technological capabilities of The People’s Republic of North Korea
https://thewatchtowers.org/deagel-a-...50-80-by-2025/

That list was done somewhere around 2003. Below is the updated link that was the updated forecast from 2017 and showing again the forecast for 2025.

United States of America

To see the link for all the countries go to the bottom on the right and click on countries under other info. It's pretty amazing. The funny thing is that both China and Russia have little to no change. Go figure.