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    Post EMP, 400 chernobyls?

    This guy, Matthew Stein is giving me a red pill. He's making me realize that a full fledged EMP could be even more grave than Ted Koppel's "Lights Out" or any fiction book I've read on the subject describes.

    Think of what could happen if the nuclear power plants shut down and they can't run the cooling systems for the reactors. Now when the Fukushima plant had it's meltdown, the radioactive waste went into the ocean. But our power plants, which are more in line with Chernobyl's, well we're screwed.

    Do you live nearby a power plant? We have two here in NJ.....If you get a chance, catch this video.

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    I guess my old CD gieger counter will be reading much higher! I'm prepared for just about anything but a N event.
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    That to me is the biggest immediate concern. If it doesn’t happen number two will be massive death and the fall of civilization as we know it.
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    You can’t really compare the Chernobyl and Fukushima plants with American designed systems. While there may well be vulnerabilities with the American plants, the failure scenarios are much fewer, operator and support staff training and emergency response is quite superior and controlled shutdown capabilities are much better developed. I’m not saying that we couldn’t have any negative impacts at our nuke plants from an EMP, but not at the chaotic and catastrophic proportions seen in Russia and Japan. There would still be long-term fuel storage issues, however. It all makes for great fear stoking and dooms day book selling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pakrat View Post
    You can’t really compare the Chernobyl and Fukushima plants with American designed systems. .......... It all makes for great fear stoking and dooms day book selling.
    Our plants can be shut down safely, . . . with no problem, . . . I don't doubt that for one moment.

    But because the EMP took out the grid, . . . and it will be months at least before they are back up and running, . . . I fear the intervening time.

    Food will be short, . . . no gasoline, . . . no police protection, . . . full marshal law where it can be enforced, . . . thugs both running wild, . . . and dying by the dozens every day, . . . and no doubt, there will be other things come into play that would scare the bejeebers out of us if we knew them today.

    But the book sellers can smoke cuban stogies, sip french wine, and eat expensive caviar while they discuss who actually hit the scenario on the head the best, . . . (yeah), . . . (right).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakrat View Post
    You can’t really compare the Chernobyl and Fukushima plants with American designed systems. While there may well be vulnerabilities with the American plants, the failure scenarios are much fewer, operator and support staff training and emergency response is quite superior and controlled shutdown capabilities are much better developed. I’m not saying that we couldn’t have any negative impacts at our nuke plants from an EMP, but not at the chaotic and catastrophic proportions seen in Russia and Japan. There would still be long-term fuel storage issues, however. It all makes for great fear stoking and dooms day book selling.
    This guy (Matthew Stein ,RIP) said these nuclear facilities generally have a three month energy supply on hand to keep the systems cooing in the event of an emergency shutdown. Assuming the event was an actual EMP, who's to say the government could keep deliveries going on a timely basis, especially if this happens on a wide scale? I'd hope they could,but given the enormity of the responsibility who could actually rely on that?
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    Per Annie: "these nuclear facilities generally have a three month energy supply on hand"

    That reminds me of an old science fiction program I was watching, could have been The Twilight Zone. The public was told that in the event of Soviet attack, there was food and shelter already provided. When the last few survivor stragglers found the shelter, there was food--case after case of saltine crackers.

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    Any Nuclear-related event is very unlikely to happen here. There are only two active nuclear power plants in my country (with a third being built), and I live thousands of kilometers away from it. Of course there would be problems with it in case of an EMP, but at such distance, radiation would not likely affect me.
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    I don't know about an emp, but an earthquake and nuclear power plants could be a scary and I believe far more likely combination. I'm sure the plants where constructed with this in mind but there are several in proximity to the New Madrid fault line. I'm not particuarly worried about a nuclear meltdown but then again I don't have one in my backyard or anywhere near my backyard.
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